[VELS] Quick Vic/Markbook Reporting Administrative Timeline

Wed Mar 14 21:56:15 EST 2007

Thanks everybody .. much clearer now!

On 14/03/07, Robert Hind <robert at yinnar.com> wrote:
>
>  Class does not mean "form group" in MarkBook.
>
> You cannot "create ten subjects for each class".
>
> MarkBook, and I also assume QuickVic, allows you to create subjects and
> then classes for each of the subjects. So you might have a subject called
> 07MA1 for all year 7 Maths classes in Semester 1  and then have classes
> called 07MA1A, 07MA1B, etc
>
> So be clear what you mean - well what MarkBook means!
>
> Else you will be in deep doo-doo
>
> Robert Hind (Semi-retired)
> Ex Traralgon and Ashwood
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* rb <rob at netspace.net.au>
> *To:* Victorian Essential Learning Standards <vels at edulists.com.au>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 14, 2007 6:34 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [VELS] Quick Vic/Markbook Reporting Administrative Timeline
>
> Yes you must differentiate between subjects and classes. Even if you make
> one subject for each class. Subjects control the formatting and titles on
> printed reports. So Junior Maths may have ten classes but one subject. Their
> reports will all be the same. You could however create ten subjects for each
> class. The top row in quick set up where you confgure report layout is
> according to my understanding controlled by subjects.
> RB
> Thomastown
>
>
> On 14/3/07 3:40 PM, "Robert Hind" <robert at yinnar.com> wrote:
>
> You do need to differentiate between *subjects* and *classes*.
>
> You can set up *subjects* such as 07EN1 for year 7 English semester 1 and
> have many *classes* for that subject, eg 07EN1A, 07EN1B, 07EN1C, 07EN1D,
> etc.
>
> Robert Hind (Semi-retired)
> Ex Traralgon and Ashwood
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> *From:*  Laurie  Savage <mailto:sav at pvgc.vic.edu.au> <sav at pvgc.vic.edu.au>
>
> *To:* 'Victorian Essential Learning  Standards'
> <mailto:vels at edulists.com.au> <vels at edulists.com.au>
>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 14, 2007 10:37  AM
>
> *Subject:* RE: [VELS] Quick Vic/Markbook  Reporting Administrative
> Timeline
>
>
>
> The relationship between subjects to classes is  one-to-many, and
> one-to-many between teachers and classes. You need to be able  to identify
> classes uniquely. We have at least 10 form groups  per academic year!
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* vels-bounces at edulists.com.au  [
> mailto:vels-bounces at edulists.com.au] <vels-bounces at edulists.com.au%5D> *On
> Behalf Of *Roland  Gesthuizen
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 13 March 2007 10:02 PM
> *To:*  Victorian Essential Learning Standards
> *Subject:* Re: [VELS] Quick  Vic/Markbook Reporting Administrative
> Timeline
> *Importance:*  High
>
>
> Quick one Laurie .. do you really need the  07A 07B 07C bits  when 07 will
> do? From what I understand the software sorts out classes /  students by
> teachers for marking anyway and again into students for reports. I  suspect
> that Markbook exports course codes .. not class codes (or are these  the
> same things).
>
> Thanks for the cue about the last digit .. notice  that the software rolls
> on a digit for semesters etc so I will add that in for  semester length
> courses.
>
>
>
>
> Course    Classes
>
> ================
>
> 07ENGT1    07AEENGT1, 07BENGT1, 07CENGT1  ...
>
> 10SCIT4    10ASCIT4, 10BSCIT4  etc
>
>
> Regards Roland
>
>
>
> On 13/03/07, *Laurie  Savage* <sav at pvgc.vic.edu.au> wrote:
>
>
>
> Hi  Roland:
>
>
>
> Can I  suggest you apply even more detail in the subject naming and set up
> a  reporting period discriminator as the last 1 or 2 characters in your
>  courses' i.d.s. If you are using Markbook it will be much easier to
> select  and lock down reporting periods if you do that.
>
>
>
> Here are  a couple of examples
>
>
>
> Course    Classes
>
> ================
>
> 07ENGT1    07AEENGT1, 07BENGT1, 07CENGT1  ...
>
> 10SCIT4    10ASCIT4, 10BSCIT4 etc
>
>
>
> If you  use a system like this then you can do a search for *T4 in the
> Open/Close  subjects panel.
>
>
>
> Are we  having fun yet?
>
> Cheers,  Laurie
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* vels-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:vels-bounces at edulists.com.au]<vels-bounces at edulists.com.au%5D>
> *On Behalf Of *Roland  Gesthuizen
> *Sent:* Saturday, 10 March 2007 10:28 PM
> *To:*  Victorian Essential Learning Standards
> *Subject:* Re: [VELS] Quick  Vic/Markbook Reporting Administrative
> Timeline
> *Importance:*  High
>
>
>
> Not so sure about timeline, but at this point I am sorting out  the
> FirstClass database before we start our import of teachers, students and
>  classes.
>
> I have been encouraging some extra rigor in our student  enrollments, and
> sorting out all the class codes (you must get these right)  We changed from
> generic names such as "English", "Maths" and  "sem2ceramics10" to 07eng,
> 08mat and 10arcer2 .. details are in the manual /  handbook.
>
> Hope to finish it all this week so I can start work on our  interim report
> template. Thank goodness it is only a single page template  and 500
> printouts. At least it sets things up for the mid-year  reports.
>
> Regards Roland
>
>
> On 10/03/07, *kgration at myrtlefordsc.vic.edu.au
> <mailto:kgration at myrtlefordsc.vic.edu.au><kgration at myrtlefordsc.vic.edu.au>
> *<  kgration at myrtlefordsc.vic.edu.au
> <mailto:kgration at myrtlefordsc.vic.edu.au><kgration at myrtlefordsc.vic.edu.au>> wrote:
>
> Hi  there everyone in VELS land,
>
> We are runnning Quick Vic @ our school  (as many are) for the first time
> this
> year and was wondering if anyone  had any timelines to share from previous
> year/s
> with regard to the  practical use of this package (or Markbook) in their
> school.
> What I am  chasing is detail with regard to reasonable deadlines for
> staff,  for
> myself as the Quick Vic administrator etc. A basic word doc. would  do
> just fine.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Kim
>
> ---
> Kim Gration
> ICT  Manager
> Myrtleford Secondary College
> http://www.myrtlefordsc.vic.edu.au
> _______________________________________________
> http://www.edulists.com.au - FAQ, resources, subscribe,  unsubscribe
> VELS Mailing List kindly supported by
> http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au - Victorian Curriculum and  Assessment
> Authority and
> http://www.vitta.org.au  - VITTA Victorian  Information Technology
> Teachers Association  Inc
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> http://www.edulists.com.au - FAQ, resources, subscribe, unsubscribe
> IPM Mailing List kindly supported by
> http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au - Victorian Curriculum and Assessment Authority
> and
> http://www.vitta.org.au - VITTA Victorian Information Technology Teachers
> Association Inc
>
> _______________________________________________
>  http://www.edulists.com.au - FAQ, resources, subscribe, unsubscribe
> IPM Mailing List kindly supported by
>  http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au - Victorian Curriculum and Assessment
> Authority and
>  http://www.vitta.org.au - VITTA Victorian Information Technology Teachers
> Association Inc
>

-- 
Roland Gesthuizen - ICT Coordinator - Westall Secondary College
http://www.westallsc.vic.edu.au

"Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change
the world; indeed it is the only thing that ever has." --Margaret Mead
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: http://www.edulists.com.au/pipermail/vels/attachments/20070314/7a75648b/attachment-0001.html