[VELS] Quick Vic/Markbook Reporting Administrative Timeline
rb
rob at netspace.net.au
Wed Mar 14 22:26:27 EST 2007
Yep I put it around the wrong way. One subject many classes. I am not sure
what you mean by form group> By class I mean say Year Seven Maths A. One
issue we have found is that teachers who essentially have the same printed
report format want slightly different titles on their reports. So instead of
Junior Maths they want Junior Applied Maths. To achieve this I create a new
subject and it has worked so far. In QuickVic which we are using at the
moment, I do not think you can customize class titles directly but only
through subjects.
RB
On 14/3/07 9:56 PM, "Roland Gesthuizen" <rgesthuizen at gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks everybody .. much clearer now!
>
> On 14/03/07, Robert Hind <robert at yinnar.com> wrote:
>> Class does not mean "form group" in MarkBook.
>>
>> You cannot "create ten subjects for each class".
>>
>> MarkBook, and I also assume QuickVic, allows you to create subjects and then
>> classes for each of the subjects. So you might have a subject called 07MA1
>> for all year 7 Maths classes in Semester 1 and then have classes called
>> 07MA1A, 07MA1B, etc
>>
>> So be clear what you mean - well what MarkBook means!
>>
>> Else you will be in deep doo-doo
>>
>> Robert Hind (Semi-retired)
>> Ex Traralgon and Ashwood
>>
>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>> From: rb <mailto:rob at netspace.net.au>
>>>
>>> To: Victorian Essential Learning Standards <mailto:vels at edulists.com.au>
>>>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 6:34 PM
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [VELS] Quick Vic/Markbook Reporting Administrative Timeline
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes you must differentiate between subjects and classes. Even if you make
>>> one subject for each class. Subjects control the formatting and titles on
>>> printed reports. So Junior Maths may have ten classes but one subject.
>>> Their reports will all be the same. You could however create ten subjects
>>> for each class. The top row in quick set up where you confgure report
>>> layout is according to my understanding controlled by subjects.
>>> RB
>>> Thomastown
>>>
>>>
>>> On 14/3/07 3:40 PM, "Robert Hind" <robert at yinnar.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> You do need to differentiate between subjects and classes.
>>>>
>>>> You can set up subjects such as 07EN1 for year 7 English semester 1 and
>>>> have many classes for that subject, eg 07EN1A, 07EN1B, 07EN1C, 07EN1D,
>>>> etc.
>>>>
>>>> Robert Hind (Semi-retired)
>>>> Ex Traralgon and Ashwood
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>
>>>>> From: Laurie Savage <mailto:sav at pvgc.vic.edu.au>
>>>>>
>>>>> To: 'Victorian Essential Learning Standards'
>>>>> <mailto:vels at edulists.com.au>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 10:37 AM
>>>>>
>>>>> Subject: RE: [VELS] Quick Vic/Markbook Reporting Administrative
>>>>> Timeline
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The relationship between subjects to classes is one-to-many, and
>>>>> one-to-many between teachers and classes. You need to be able to
>>>>> identify classes uniquely. We have at least 10 form groups per academic
>>>>> year!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> From: vels-bounces at edulists.com.au
>>>>> [mailto:vels-bounces at edulists.com.au]
>>>>> <mailto:vels-bounces at edulists.com.au%5D> On Behalf Of Roland Gesthuizen
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, 13 March 2007 10:02 PM
>>>>> To: Victorian Essential Learning Standards
>>>>> Subject: Re: [VELS] Quick Vic/Markbook Reporting Administrative Timeline
>>>>> Importance: High
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Quick one Laurie .. do you really need the 07A 07B 07C bits when 07
>>>>> will do? From what I understand the software sorts out classes /
>>>>> students by teachers for marking anyway and again into students for
>>>>> reports. I suspect that Markbook exports course codes .. not class codes
>>>>> (or are these the same things).
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for the cue about the last digit .. notice that the software
>>>>> rolls on a digit for semesters etc so I will add that in for semester
>>>>> length courses.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Course Classes
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ================
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 07ENGT1 07AEENGT1, 07BENGT1, 07CENGT1 ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 10SCIT4 10ASCIT4, 10BSCIT4 etc
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards Roland
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 13/03/07, Laurie Savage <sav at pvgc.vic.edu.au> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Roland:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can I suggest you apply even more detail in the subject naming and set
>>>>>> up a reporting period discriminator as the last 1 or 2 characters in
>>>>>> your courses' i.d.s. If you are using Markbook it will be much easier
>>>>>> to select and lock down reporting periods if you do that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here are a couple of examples
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Course Classes
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ================
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 07ENGT1 07AEENGT1, 07BENGT1, 07CENGT1 ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 10SCIT4 10ASCIT4, 10BSCIT4 etc
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you use a system like this then you can do a search for *T4 in the
>>>>>> Open/Close subjects panel.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are we having fun yet?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers, Laurie
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From: vels-bounces at edulists.com.au [
>>>>>> mailto:vels-bounces at edulists.com.au]
>>>>>> <mailto:vels-bounces at edulists.com.au%5D> On Behalf Of Roland
>>>>>> Gesthuizen
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, 10 March 2007 10:28 PM
>>>>>> To: Victorian Essential Learning Standards
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [VELS] Quick Vic/Markbook Reporting Administrative
>>>>>> Timeline
>>>>>> Importance: High
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not so sure about timeline, but at this point I am sorting out the
>>>>>> FirstClass database before we start our import of teachers, students and
>>>>>> classes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have been encouraging some extra rigor in our student enrollments,
>>>>>> and sorting out all the class codes (you must get these right) We
>>>>>> changed from generic names such as "English", "Maths" and
>>>>>> "sem2ceramics10" to 07eng, 08mat and 10arcer2 .. details are in the
>>>>>> manual / handbook.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hope to finish it all this week so I can start work on our interim
>>>>>> report template. Thank goodness it is only a single page template and
>>>>>> 500 printouts. At least it sets things up for the mid-year reports.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards Roland
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10/03/07, kgration at myrtlefordsc.vic.edu.au
>>>>>> <mailto:kgration at myrtlefordsc.vic.edu.au> <
>>>>>> kgration at myrtlefordsc.vic.edu.au
>>>>>> <mailto:kgration at myrtlefordsc.vic.edu.au> > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi there everyone in VELS land,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We are runnning Quick Vic @ our school (as many are) for the first
>>>>>>> time this
>>>>>>> year and was wondering if anyone had any timelines to share from
>>>>>>> previous year/s
>>>>>>> with regard to the practical use of this package (or Markbook) in
>>>>>>> their school.
>>>>>>> What I am chasing is detail with regard to reasonable deadlines for
>>>>>>> staff, for
>>>>>>> myself as the Quick Vic administrator etc. A basic word doc. would do
>>>>>>> just fine.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kim
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>> Kim Gration
>>>>>>> ICT Manager
>>>>>>> Myrtleford Secondary College
>>>>>>> http://www.myrtlefordsc.vic.edu.au
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