[VELS] Quick Vic/Markbook Reporting Administrative Timeline

Wed Mar 14 21:29:44 EST 2007

Re: [VELS] Quick Vic/Markbook Reporting Administrative TimelineClass does not mean "form group" in MarkBook. 

You cannot "create ten subjects for each class". 

MarkBook, and I also assume QuickVic, allows you to create subjects and then classes for each of the subjects. So you might have a subject called 07MA1 for all year 7 Maths classes in Semester 1  and then have classes called 07MA1A, 07MA1B, etc

So be clear what you mean - well what MarkBook means!

Else you will be in deep doo-doo

Robert Hind (Semi-retired)
Ex Traralgon and Ashwood

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: rb 
  To: Victorian Essential Learning Standards 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 6:34 PM
  Subject: Re: [VELS] Quick Vic/Markbook Reporting Administrative Timeline

  Yes you must differentiate between subjects and classes. Even if you make one subject for each class. Subjects control the formatting and titles on printed reports. So Junior Maths may have ten classes but one subject. Their reports will all be the same. You could however create ten subjects for each class. The top row in quick set up where you confgure report layout is according to my understanding controlled by subjects.
  RB
  Thomastown

  On 14/3/07 3:40 PM, "Robert Hind" <robert at yinnar.com> wrote:

    You do need to differentiate between subjects and classes. 

    You can set up subjects such as 07EN1 for year 7 English semester 1 and have many classes for that subject, eg 07EN1A, 07EN1B, 07EN1C, 07EN1D, etc.

    Robert Hind (Semi-retired)
    Ex Traralgon and Ashwood

      ----- Original Message ----- 

      From:  Laurie  Savage <mailto:sav at pvgc.vic.edu.au>  

      To: 'Victorian Essential Learning  Standards' <mailto:vels at edulists.com.au>  

      Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 10:37  AM

      Subject: RE: [VELS] Quick Vic/Markbook  Reporting Administrative Timeline

      The relationship between subjects to classes is  one-to-many, and one-to-many between teachers and classes. You need to be able  to identify classes uniquely. We have at least 10 form groups  per academic year!  

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      From: vels-bounces at edulists.com.au  [mailto:vels-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Roland  Gesthuizen
      Sent: Tuesday, 13 March 2007 10:02 PM
      To:  Victorian Essential Learning Standards
      Subject: Re: [VELS] Quick  Vic/Markbook Reporting Administrative Timeline
      Importance:  High

      Quick one Laurie .. do you really need the  07A 07B 07C bits  when 07 will do? From what I understand the software sorts out classes /  students by teachers for marking anyway and again into students for reports. I  suspect that Markbook exports course codes .. not class codes (or are these  the same things). 

      Thanks for the cue about the last digit .. notice  that the software rolls on a digit for semesters etc so I will add that in for  semester length courses.

        Course    Classes

        ================ 

        07ENGT1    07AEENGT1, 07BENGT1, 07CENGT1  ...

        10SCIT4    10ASCIT4, 10BSCIT4  etc

      Regards Roland

      On 13/03/07, Laurie  Savage <sav at pvgc.vic.edu.au> wrote:  

        Hi  Roland:

        Can I  suggest you apply even more detail in the subject naming and set up a  reporting period discriminator as the last 1 or 2 characters in your  courses' i.d.s. If you are using Markbook it will be much easier to select  and lock down reporting periods if you do that.

        Here are  a couple of examples

        Course    Classes

        ================

        07ENGT1    07AEENGT1, 07BENGT1, 07CENGT1  ...

        10SCIT4    10ASCIT4, 10BSCIT4 etc

        If you  use a system like this then you can do a search for *T4 in the Open/Close  subjects panel.

        Are we  having fun yet?

        Cheers,  Laurie

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        From: vels-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:vels-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Roland  Gesthuizen
        Sent: Saturday, 10 March 2007 10:28 PM
        To:  Victorian Essential Learning Standards
        Subject: Re: [VELS] Quick  Vic/Markbook Reporting Administrative Timeline
        Importance:  High

        Not so sure about timeline, but at this point I am sorting out  the FirstClass database before we start our import of teachers, students and  classes. 

        I have been encouraging some extra rigor in our student  enrollments, and sorting out all the class codes (you must get these right)  We changed from generic names such as "English", "Maths" and  "sem2ceramics10" to 07eng, 08mat and 10arcer2 .. details are in the manual /  handbook. 

        Hope to finish it all this week so I can start work on our  interim report template. Thank goodness it is only a single page template  and 500 printouts. At least it sets things up for the mid-year  reports.

        Regards Roland 

        On 10/03/07, kgration at myrtlefordsc.vic.edu.au  <mailto:kgration at myrtlefordsc.vic.edu.au> <  kgration at myrtlefordsc.vic.edu.au <mailto:kgration at myrtlefordsc.vic.edu.au> > wrote:  

          Hi  there everyone in VELS land,

          We are runnning Quick Vic @ our school  (as many are) for the first time this
          year and was wondering if anyone  had any timelines to share from previous year/s
          with regard to the  practical use of this package (or Markbook) in their school. 
          What I am  chasing is detail with regard to reasonable deadlines for staff,  for
          myself as the Quick Vic administrator etc. A basic word doc. would  do just fine.

          Cheers,

          Kim

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          Kim Gration
          ICT  Manager
          Myrtleford Secondary College
          http://www.myrtlefordsc.vic.edu.au
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