[Year 12 SofDev] Prog Languages

Thu May 9 04:28:44 UTC 2019

Hi, thrillseekers

If students want to choose an alternative language (or a different
implementation of it) you might want to create a checklist of VCAA's
'approved language criteria' and get the student to tick that their chosen
language and implementation meets the criteria.

This comes to mind:

Dear amazing and wonderful SD teacher,

To the best of my knowledge, I [ insert name here] believe that my chosen
programming language [ insert language name / implementation here] is able
to:

[  ] develop a GUI for use in digital systems such as laptops, gaming
consoles, mobile phones, tablets, robots.
[  ] construct and use data structures
[  ] design and apply data validation techniques
[  ] use program control structures: selection, iteration and sequencing
[  ] use modularisation and code optimisation
[  ] use objects, methods and event-driven programming functions.
[  ] design, construct and use external storage and access technologies
[  ] retrieve data from external sources.

So help me, [ insert deity's name here ]

Your humble student
Signed this day [ insert date here ]

[sign here]

[apply fingerprint in blood here]

Staple one $50 note here.

Or something similar. (Your version may vary)

Regards,
Mark

On Thu, 9 May 2019 at 13:11, James Vella <James.Vella at avemaria.vic.edu.au>
wrote:

> I’m the same as Nat (and others) on this one.
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> I’ve done U3O1 as one in all in for VB, but then have allowed flexibility
> with regards to the SAT as it should be the students determining the
> language that best meets their needs.
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> That being said, I would have thought that the language meet the
> Programming requirements (to ensure equity) like Richard mentioned. Usually
> I’ve had discussions with students to ensure they know that support may be
> limited (as you might not have a good knowledge of the language they have
> chosen compared to what you have used in U3O1) and usually had them show me
> some examples of what they have done and can do with their “alternative”
> language to a similar level of what was required of students in U3O1.
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> Hope this helps
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> JV
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> *From:* sofdev <sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au> *On Behalf Of *Richard
> Shelly
> *Sent:* Thursday, 9 May 2019 11:56 AM
> *To:* Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List <
> sofdev at edulists.com.au>
> *Subject:* Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Prog Languages
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> I pretty much do this too.
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> U3O1 is python specific (I did VB in my first year teaching SD, and Python
> this year and last year).
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> For the SAT, students can either use python, or another language. If they
> opt for another language, they have to demonstrate it meets the VCAA rules
> though.
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> *From:* sofdev <sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au> *On Behalf Of *HEATH
> Natalie
> *Sent:* Thursday, 9 May 2019 11:32 AM
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> *Subject:* Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Prog Languages
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> For the SAT I allowed anything that suited their purposes. I marked the
> work with them next to me so that they could explain any features I wasn’t
> familiar with.
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> However, for U3O1 I had them all work in VB for the sole purpose of making
> sure they all had equitable tasks – some things are more difficult in other
> languages, especially when it comes to creating GUIs. It also makes sure
> that I can take them through the same tasks in the same way and cover many
> of the skills needed for the exam, laying the groundwork.
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> Natalie
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> *From:* sofdev <sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au> *On Behalf Of *Vera Cook
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> Hi I don’t think there is any reason, my kids are using a variety of
> languages.
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> *From:* sofdev <sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au> *On Behalf Of *Victoria
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> *Subject:* [Year 12 SofDev] Prog Languages
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> I have a number of kids who are keen to do SD but hate Visual Basic. I
> have  a lot of reasons for using VB and intend to keep using it for Units 3
> and 4 even though we do C++, Python and PHP as part of our Year 10 programs.
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> Is there any reason why all the SD students within a class need to all use
> the same programming language for their SAT?
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> Cheers,
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