[Year 12 SofDev] Language options 2016

Tue Feb 23 15:38:04 AEDT 2016

Thanks guys, fair points made by both. I think I'll go with VB for the SAC and "whatever you want as long as it responds to the need" in the SAT.

If I am disadvantaging my students can Paula or someone else up the chain please let me know and I'll go back to uniformity across the board!

Cheers

Trav

Travis Parker
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The Knox School

From: sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Laurie Savage
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My feeling is that in the Folio exercises (U3O1) you are specifying the task quite explicitly and that should include prescribing the language being used - if you are unfamiliar with the language then it it could be difficult to assess the accuracy and completeness of the task. On the other hand the SAT is open-ended and the specifications come from the customer. The student would be sensible to explore different languages to add functional or non-functional elements to the solution. Mine are studying PHP but I would be surprised if the better ones didn't include Javascript or SQL in their solution.

Laurie

Laurie Savage
IT Teacher/Assessment and Reporting Coordinator
Pascoe Vale Girls College

On 23 Feb 2016, at 2:46 PM, Matheson, Geoff J <matheson.geoff.j at edumail.vic.gov.au<mailto:matheson.geoff.j at edumail.vic.gov.au>> wrote:

And by SAC in U1 I obviously meant SAC in U3.

:)
Geoff Matheson
Leading Teacher: Teaching and Learning Coach - Classroom Support
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Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Language options 2016

This exact question was put at one of the VCAA information session late last year, and the verdict was that for the SAT (not sure about the SAC in U1) it is fine for a student to use a different language from the one being studied, as long as they meet the requirements.

Geoff Matheson
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From: <sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au<mailto:sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au>> on behalf of Travis Parker <Travis.Parker at knox.vic.edu.au<mailto:Travis.Parker at knox.vic.edu.au>>
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Date: Tuesday, 23 February 2016 at 2:29 PM
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Subject: [Year 12 SofDev] Language options 2016

Hi All,

I have a quick query that's never come up in the past few years - I generally teach VB (Yes, I'm a basic programmer!) and I have a student who loves using C#. I have asked him to make both the VB programs in class that we are making as a class and then recreate the same functionality using C#, which he has been doing at home and bringing to me.

My question is are you allowed to still grade (And more importantly, rank) students using different programming languages within the same cohort? As they need to find a solution to their identified need or opportunity in the SAT I'm assuming they may be able to use any language they please? Or will this give some an unfair advantage/disadvantage?

What are people's thoughts (Or the rules even!) governing the use of multiple languages within the one group. Possible or not?

Thanking you in advance for your valued input,

Trav

Travis Parker
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