[Year 12 SofDev] Student ranking query

Fri Nov 4 11:22:41 EST 2011

Although it is too late now, if you have someone like this next year then
you should apply to have the questions read to them and the answers typed 
either by them or the reader. This is not automatically granted but if your
VCE co-ord really believes that the student is disadvantaged by their
rudimentary literary skills and appalling written skills then you have a
fair chance....

Often as an exam marker I have marked papers where the answers have been
printed and stuck into the exam booklet. As a teacher I have had students
who have had the questions read to them and then the student has typed their
answers (on a NON-network computer) and once I had a student whose answers
were typed for him. Also another help is that students can apply for extra
time in the exam so that they can think through the stuff.

Also be aware that in terms of statistical moderation students like this
where they are given special consideration in the exam are out of your group
for stat mod. If you have a small clas this can be a problem!!

Also be aware that a student such as Travis¹ student with a poor exam result
is likely to be so far outside the rest of the group that they will be
removed before the stat mod is performed and so will not have an adverse
effect on your other students¹ results. If they are not far out of the
grouping then they will not have an adverse effect anyway!!

When you put in your predictive grades those grades have no actual effect on
your students¹ results  if the teacher¹s prediction is a long way from the
actual result then the paper is RE-marked (up or down).
If you have students with poor handwriting then PLEASE teach them to write a
little more slowly and carefully. Hard to read exams are hard to mark. Easy
to read exams are lovely.

One day we will be able to have students type their answers but there are
some issues. However the 1:1 computer initiative should solve most of
them!!!!!!!!!

Enjoy the exam and remind your students that there are many paths to what
they want a nd most of them are likely to have at least four careers in
their lives.

Andrew

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Andrew Shortell

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On 4/11/11 9:57 AM, "Travis Parker" <Travis.Parker at beaconhills.vic.edu.au>
wrote:

> Thanks Adrian,
>  
> He isn¹t right up the top of my rankings as he received poor marks for U3O1
> and U4O2, however it¹s sad to see these excellent programmers receive poor
> marks in a Software Development course. On the flip side, my top ranked
> student is quite an average programmer however is a great writer and really
> good at integrating case studies into his answers etc, so students like him
> are advantaged by the structure of the course I suppose.
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> And yes, his handwriting is APPALLING!
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> Cheers
>  
> Trav
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> From: sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au]
> On Behalf Of Adrian Janson
> Sent: Friday, 4 November 2011 9:51 AM
> To: 'Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Student ranking query
>  
> Hi Travis,
>  
> You have described half of my cohort!!!  Actually  they tend not to be quite
> as extreme as this for me  but I do have 1 or 2 like this every year.
> Unfortunately, in my experience, they do very badly.  (and by badly  I mean
> ³not as good as they should²) and I think that doing a written exam for these
> types of students is their Achilles heel.  Often I find that their handwriting
> is very hard to understand too (for a double whammy!)
>  
> Cheers,
> Adrian
>  
> Adrian Janson B.Sc, Dip.Ed, M.Ed
> Director of ICT
> Melbourne High School, Forrest Hill, South Yarra, Victoria 3141 Australia.
> Phone: 03 9826 0711 International: +61 3 9826 0711
> Fax: 03 9826 8767 International: +61 3 9826 8767
> E-mail: janson.adrian.a at edumail.vic.gov.au
> Website: http://www.mhs.vic.edu.au <http://www.mhs.vic.edu.au/>
> Blog: http://jansona.edublogs.org <http://jansona.edublogs.org/>
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> From: sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au]
> On Behalf Of Travis Parker
> Sent: Friday, 4 November 2011 9:38 AM
> To: Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List
> Subject: [Year 12 SofDev] Student ranking query
>  
> Colleagues,
>  
> In my short teaching career I have taught year 12 Business Management, IT
> Apps, Cert III Multimedia and this is my first year of teaching Software
> Development. I have a student that is really concerning me about his
> performance and I¹m sure some of you must have come across this situation
> before. He is a brilliant programmer  He basically goes home and that¹s all
> he does. He has a website that he has uploaded some games that he has
> developed to and has even linked in an online high scores table. He has
> attended most of the Uni courses in holiday periods plus completed a few night
> courses. He is the only student all year to comprehensively fulfil all of the
> criteria of the applications in U3O2 and U4O1. However, English is his worst
> subject. He can¹t put pen to paper and has recently sat one of the practice
> exams for me (The Insight one) and got 7/88, 6 of which were from multiple
> choice. His comprehension is shocking even though practically he can easily
> apply things like 2D arrays, quick sorts, binary searches, stacks, queues,
> etc. 
>  
> My question is this  How are these type of students treated in the final
> results? This must be the hardest subject to have rankings in because you give
> students fair marks for their programs but it doesn¹t mean that they can sit
> down and write about it in a final exam. For example, in Business Management
> all SACs were tests as was the final exam which made for consistent rankings,
> however much of the SAC marks this year were for programming skills and their
> application, but the exam is written.
>  
> Has anyone had a student like this before??????
>  
> Good luck to all in the exam!
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> Trav
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> Travis Parker
> Head of ICT
> Beaconhills College Pakenham
> ( 03 5945 3016
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