[Year 12 SofDev] RE: SAC 1
andrew barry
jagguy999 at gmail.com
Fri Feb 8 14:16:23 EST 2008
Hi,
I am going to modify the SACs from the VITTA resources .
Can i ask do these SACs satisfy the outcomes properly from the study
design?
I am being audited so i need to be exact.
On 2/8/08, Kelly Beattie <beattie.kelly.l at edumail.vic.gov.au> wrote:
>
> I think that people sometimes forget that you can actually write your own
> SAC. By using the assessment advice and the study design you have all of
> the
> resources necessary to develop your own Assessment materials.
>
> By all means use the SACs that are floating around for practice, but it is
> 100% worth the effort to develop your own SACs. I can say this because
> I've
> done it.
>
> Good luck to those who are willing to give it a go!
>
> Kelly Beattie
> Leading Schools Fund Coordinator
> Moondah Centre
> Drouin Secondary College
> South Road, Drouin 3818
> Ph: (03) 5625 1002
>
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> 1. RE: SAC1 (Adrian Janson)
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> Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 12:48:42 +1100
> From: "Adrian Janson" <janson.adrian.a at edumail.vic.gov.au>
> Subject: RE: [Year 12 SofDev] SAC1
> To: "'Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List'"
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> ...
>
>
>
>
>
> Having thought about this a little bit more (after pressing 'send').
>
>
>
> Personally, I don't think you should use the solutions at all.
>
>
>
> We all know the course material - I feel that the best way for anyone
> using
> someone else SAC to proceed is to write their own solutions that are
> relevant to the skills levels and material covered in their own classes.
> Also, by doing so, it is easier to come to grips with the pitfalls and
> complications within the SAC.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Adrian
>
>
>
> Adrian Janson,
>
> VITTA President
>
> Director of ICT,
>
> Melbourne High School,
>
> Forrest Hill, South Yarra 3141 Australia.
>
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> From: sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:
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> On Behalf Of andrew barry
> Sent: Friday, 8 February 2008 12:34 PM
> To: Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] SAC1
>
>
>
> The u302 module solution is far more detailed than the description on the
> sac. The soln has an imported XML file instead of a text file and a
> detailed
> GUI. Is the solution just a excellent example for top marks as it seems
> overkill?
>
> On 2/8/08, Adrian Janson <janson.adrian.a at edumail.vic.gov.au> wrote:
>
> Hi Andrew,
>
>
>
> The link to the materials that you are looking for are here:
>
> http://www.vitta.org.au/resources/list.php?folder_id=166
> <http://www.vitta.org.au/resources/list.php?folder_id=166&order=name%20ASC
> >
> &order=name%20ASC
>
>
>
> They are stored on the VITTA web-site in the resources section. If you
> cannot access this area, then you are not a VITTA member - so then I would
> encourage you to sign up as soon as possible! The benefits of being a
> member are numerous - the most obvious one being that you will have access
> to a large number of resources written by VITTA members stored in the
> resource section.
>
>
>
> All the best!
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Adrian
>
>
>
> Adrian Janson,
>
> VITTA President
>
> Director of ICT,
>
> Melbourne High School,
>
> Forrest Hill, South Yarra 3141 Australia.
>
> Phone: 03 9826 0711 International: +61 3 9826 0711
>
> Fax: 03 9826 8767 International: +61 3 9826 8767
>
> E-mail: janson.adrian.a at edumail.vic.gov.au
>
> Website: http://www.mhs.vic.edu.au <http://www.mhs.vic.edu.au/>
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> From: sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:
> sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au]
> On Behalf Of andrew barry
> Sent: Thursday, 7 February 2008 8:45 AM
> To: sofdev at edulists.com.au
> Subject: [Year 12 SofDev] SAC1
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> I am still after SAC1 and 2 for software development. I emailed VITTA but
> I
> wonder what people here are using. I have last years SAC1 for network
> design
> but no answer sheet.
>
>
>
>
>
> Any help is appreciated.
>
>
>
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> From: "andrew barry" <jagguy999 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] SAC1
> To: "Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List"
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> Hi,
>
> I dont have a problem with the solution as i understand it. Some of my
> guys
> have just started VB.net and I dont believe the can reproduce that level
> of
> response in 10-13 weeks. They could do the SAC as it is written by the
> time
> they do the sac but not the solution to that level of detail.
>
> Also I cant view the .VSD file as i cant download MS visio viewer as the
> download is corrupt 2003,2007 ver.
> Has anyone got the DFD diagram for this?
>
>
> Are there any other SACs around as i like to have a choice or do i just
> modify what i have?
>
>
>
>
> On 2/8/08, Adrian Janson <janson.adrian.a at edumail.vic.gov.au> wrote:
> >
> > Andrew,
> >
> >
> >
> > This really highlights a difficulty for me in providing solutions to
> SACs.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I do like to post my SACs to the edulists and each year I receive
> requests
> > for solutions. Ultimately, 'solutions' are going to be based on what
> level
> > of expectation you place on the students in your class. The important
> thing
> > is that you grade each SAC in a uniform way and you (and your class)
> have
> a
> > clear understanding of what is expected.
> >
> >
> >
> > The SAC solution which you are referring to is essentially an amalgam of
> a
> > number of high level responses received from students in my class. If
> you
> > gave this SAC to your class would you be expecting them to produce an
> XML
> > file solution in order to achieve full marks? Absolutely not. You
> should
> > use whatever software you have selected and require students to
> reproduce
> > the skills which you are teaching them.
> >
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Adrian
> >
> >
> >
> > *Adrian Janson, *
> >
> > *VITTA President*
> >
> > *Director of ICT, *
> >
> > Melbourne High School,
> >
> > Forrest Hill, South Yarra 3141 Australia.
> >
> > Phone: 03 9826 0711 International: +61 3 9826 0711
> >
> > Fax: 03 9826 8767 International: +61 3 9826 8767
> >
> > E-mail: janson.adrian.a at edumail.vic.gov.au
> >
> > Website: http://www.mhs.vic.edu.au
> >
> > Blog: http://jansona.edublogs.org
> >
> >
> >
> > IMPORTANT - This email and any attachments may be confidential. If
> > received in error, please contact us and delete all copies. Before
> opening
> > or using attachments, check them for viruses and defects. Regardless of
> any
> > loss, damage or consequence, whether caused by the negligence of the
> sender
> > or not, resulting directly or indirectly from the use of any attached
> files
> > our liability is limited to resupplying any affected attachments. Any
> > representations or opinions expressed in this email are those of the
> > individual sender, and not necessarily those of the Department of
> Education
> > and Early Childhood Development.
> >
> >
> >
> > *From:* sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:
> > sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au] *On Behalf Of *andrew barry
> > *Sent:* Friday, 8 February 2008 12:34 PM
> > *To:* Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List
> > *Subject:* Re: [Year 12 SofDev] SAC1
> >
> >
> >
> > The u302 module solution is far more detailed than the description on
> the
> > sac. The soln has an imported XML file instead of a text file and a
> detailed
> > GUI. Is the solution just a excellent example for top marks as it seems
> > overkill?
> >
> > On 2/8/08, *Adrian Janson* <janson.adrian.a at edumail.vic.gov.au> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Andrew,
> >
> >
> >
> > The link to the materials that you are looking for are here:
> >
> >
> http://www.vitta.org.au/resources/list.php?folder_id=166&order=name%20ASC
> >
> >
> >
> > They are stored on the VITTA web-site in the resources section. If you
> > cannot access this area, then you are not a VITTA member so then I
> would
> > encourage you to sign up as soon as possible! The benefits of being a
> > member are numerous the most obvious one being that you will have
> access
> > to a large number of resources written by VITTA members stored in the
> > resource section.
> >
> >
> >
> > All the best!
> >
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Adrian
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> >
> >
> > I am still after SAC1 and 2 for software development. I emailed VITTA
> but
> > I wonder what people here are using. I have last years SAC1 for network
> > design but no answer sheet.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Any help is appreciated.
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > http://www.edulists.com.au IT Software Development Mailing List kindly
> > supported by
> >
> http://www.vitta.org.au/vce/studies/infotech/softwaredevel3-4.html<
> http://ww
> w.vitta.org.au/vce/studies/infotech/softwaredevel3-4.html%20%20>-
> Victorian
> Curriculum and Assessment Authority and
> > http://www.vitta.org.au - VITTA Victorian Information Technology
> Teachers
> > Association Inc
> >
> > *Important - *This email and any attachments may be confidential. If
> > received in error, please contact us and delete all copies. Before
> opening
> > or using attachments check them for viruses and defects. Regardless of
> any
> > loss, damage or consequence, whether caused by the negligence of the
> sender
> > or not, resulting directly or indirectly from the use of any attached
> files
> > our liability is limited to resupplying any affected attachments. Any
> > representations or opinions expressed are those of the individual
> sender,
> > and not necessarily those of the Department of Education and Early
> Childhood
> > Development.
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > http://www.edulists.com.au IT Software Development Mailing List kindly
> > supported by
> > http://www.vitta.org.au/vce/studies/infotech/softwaredevel3-4.html -
> > Victorian Curriculum and Assessment Authority and
> > http://www.vitta.org.au - VITTA Victorian Information Technology
> Teachers
> > Association Inc
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > http://www.edulists.com.au IT Software Development Mailing List kindly
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> Curriculum and Assessment Authority and
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> > and not necessarily those of the Department of Education and Early
> Childhood
> > Development.
> > _______________________________________________
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