[Year 12 SofDev] RE: SAC 1

Fri Feb 8 13:57:14 EST 2008

I think that people sometimes forget that you can actually write your own
SAC. By using the assessment advice and the study design you have all of the
resources necessary to develop your own Assessment materials.

By all means use the SACs that are floating around for practice, but it is
100% worth the effort to develop your own SACs. I can say this because I've
done it.

Good luck to those who are willing to give it a go!

Kelly Beattie
Leading Schools Fund Coordinator
Moondah Centre
Drouin Secondary College
South Road, Drouin 3818
Ph: (03) 5625 1002 

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Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 12:48:42 +1100
From: "Adrian Janson" <janson.adrian.a at edumail.vic.gov.au>
Subject: RE: [Year 12 SofDev] SAC1
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...

Having thought about this a little bit more (after pressing 'send').

Personally, I don't think you should use the solutions at all.

We all know the course material - I feel that the best way for anyone using
someone else SAC to proceed is to write their own solutions that are
relevant to the skills levels and material covered in their own classes.
Also, by doing so, it is easier to come to grips with the pitfalls and
complications within the SAC.

Cheers,

Adrian

Adrian Janson, 

VITTA President

Director of ICT, 

Melbourne High School, 

Forrest Hill, South Yarra 3141 Australia.

Phone: 03 9826 0711 International: +61 3 9826 0711

Fax: 03 9826 8767 International: +61 3 9826 8767

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From: sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au]
On Behalf Of andrew barry
Sent: Friday, 8 February 2008 12:34 PM
To: Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] SAC1

The u302 module solution is far more detailed than the description on the
sac. The soln has an imported XML file instead of a text file and a detailed
GUI. Is the solution just a excellent example for  top marks as it seems
overkill?

On 2/8/08, Adrian Janson <janson.adrian.a at edumail.vic.gov.au> wrote: 

Hi Andrew,

The link to the materials that you are looking for are here:

http://www.vitta.org.au/resources/list.php?folder_id=166
<http://www.vitta.org.au/resources/list.php?folder_id=166&order=name%20ASC>
&order=name%20ASC

They are stored on the VITTA web-site in the resources section.  If you
cannot access this area, then you are not a VITTA member - so then I would
encourage you to sign up as soon as possible!  The benefits of being a
member are numerous - the most obvious one being that you will have access
to a large number of resources written by VITTA members stored in the
resource section.

All the best!

Cheers,

Adrian

Adrian Janson, 

VITTA President

Director of ICT, 

Melbourne High School, 

Forrest Hill, South Yarra 3141 Australia.

Phone: 03 9826 0711 International: +61 3 9826 0711

Fax: 03 9826 8767 International: +61 3 9826 8767

E-mail: janson.adrian.a at edumail.vic.gov.au

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From: sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au]
On Behalf Of andrew barry
Sent: Thursday, 7 February 2008 8:45 AM
To: sofdev at edulists.com.au
Subject: [Year 12 SofDev] SAC1

Hi,

I am still after SAC1 and 2 for software development. I emailed VITTA but I
wonder what people here are using. I have last years SAC1 for network design
but no answer sheet.

Any help is appreciated.

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Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 13:34:59 +1100
From: "andrew barry" <jagguy999 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] SAC1
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Hi,

I dont have a problem with the solution as i understand it. Some of my guys
have just started VB.net and I dont believe the can reproduce that level of
response in 10-13 weeks. They could do the SAC as it is written  by the time
they do the sac but not the solution to that level of detail.

Also I cant view the .VSD file as i cant download MS visio viewer as the
download is corrupt 2003,2007 ver.
Has anyone got the DFD diagram for this?

Are there any other SACs around  as i like to have a choice or do i just
modify what i have?

On 2/8/08, Adrian Janson <janson.adrian.a at edumail.vic.gov.au> wrote:
>
>  Andrew,
>
>
>
> This really highlights a difficulty for me in providing solutions to SACs.
>
>
>
>
> I do like to post my SACs to the edulists and each year I receive requests
> for solutions.  Ultimately, 'solutions' are going to be based on what
level
> of expectation you place on the students in your class.  The important
thing
> is that you grade each SAC in a uniform way and you (and your class) have
a
> clear understanding of what is expected.
>
>
>
> The SAC solution which you are referring to is essentially an amalgam of a
> number of high level responses received from students in my class.  If you
> gave this SAC to your class  would you be expecting them to produce an
XML
> file solution in order to achieve full marks?  Absolutely not.  You should
> use whatever software you have selected and require students to reproduce
> the skills which you are teaching them.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Adrian
>
>
>
> *Adrian Janson, *
>
> *VITTA President*
>
> *Director of ICT, *
>
> Melbourne High School,
>
> Forrest Hill, South Yarra 3141 Australia.
>
> Phone: 03 9826 0711 International: +61 3 9826 0711
>
> Fax: 03 9826 8767 International: +61 3 9826 8767
>
> E-mail: janson.adrian.a at edumail.vic.gov.au
>
> Website: http://www.mhs.vic.edu.au
>
> Blog: http://jansona.edublogs.org
>
>
>
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> *From:* sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:
> sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au] *On Behalf Of *andrew barry
> *Sent:* Friday, 8 February 2008 12:34 PM
> *To:* Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List
> *Subject:* Re: [Year 12 SofDev] SAC1
>
>
>
> The u302 module solution is far more detailed than the description on the
> sac. The soln has an imported XML file instead of a text file and a
detailed
> GUI. Is the solution just a excellent example for  top marks as it seems
> overkill?
>
> On 2/8/08, *Adrian Janson* <janson.adrian.a at edumail.vic.gov.au> wrote:
>
> Hi Andrew,
>
>
>
> The link to the materials that you are looking for are here:
>
> http://www.vitta.org.au/resources/list.php?folder_id=166&order=name%20ASC
>
>
>
> They are stored on the VITTA web-site in the resources section.  If you
> cannot access this area, then you are not a VITTA member  so then I would
> encourage you to sign up as soon as possible!  The benefits of being a
> member are numerous  the most obvious one being that you will have access
> to a large number of resources written by VITTA members stored in the
> resource section.
>
>
>
> All the best!
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Adrian
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> I am still after SAC1 and 2 for software development. I emailed VITTA but
> I wonder what people here are using. I have last years SAC1 for network
> design but no answer sheet.
>
>
>
>
>
> Any help is appreciated.
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> http://www.edulists.com.au IT Software Development Mailing List kindly
> supported by
>
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