[Year 12 IT Apps] ESL students and the exam

Tue Oct 5 21:54:09 EST 2010

The way I see it, unless an exam front page says a dictionary is acceptable,
it's *not*.

Paula?

On 5 October 2010 20:40, Robert Hind <robert at yinnar.com> wrote:

>  So you are saying what I have understood for years
>
> NO dictionaries at all for ESL students in ITA (or Physics, Chemistry,
> Maths, etc)
>
> Robert Hind (Semi-retired) OOF, GOM (Thanks Kent!)
> Ashwood and Traralgon
> robert at yinnar.com
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Timmer-Arends <timmer at melbpc.org.au>
> *To:* Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List<itapps at edulists.com.au>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 05, 2010 6:38 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] ESL students and the exam
>
> Hello all
>
> be careful about what you tell students. Contrast this
> http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vcaa/vce/exams/examcovers/Oct_Nov_2010/2010engESL-cov.pdf
> or this
> http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vcaa/vce/exams/examcovers/Oct_Nov_2010/2010eng-cov.pdf
>
> with this
> http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vcaa/vce/exams/examcovers/Oct_Nov_2010/2010itapps-cov.pdf
>
> Regards
> Robert T-A
> Brighton SC
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Andrew Shortell <shortell at get2me.net>
> *To:* Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List<itapps at edulists.com.au>
> *Sent:* Monday, October 04, 2010 8:21 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] ESL students and the exam
>
> hi All
> I believe they are allowed a dictionary. The exams are proof read by
> specialist ESL people at VCAA prior to the sitter vetter.
> All answers must be in English since 1991 when someone had to receive a
> mark in maths because their answer was correct but in Chinese (Rhombus was
> the word in 1990).
>
> Ring the VCAA ESL people and ask for the answer in an email.
>
> Andrew Shortell
> Wallan SC
>
>  On 04/10/2010, at 1:59 PM, Mann, Warrick D wrote:
>
>   Hi All,
>  I have been asking this question to, from what I have been able to find
> out is that there are no provisions for ESL. All normal rules apply.
>  Cheers
> Warrick
>  *From:* itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:
> itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au] *On Behalf Of *Mark KELLY
> *Sent:* Monday, 4 October 2010 12:47 PM
> *To:* Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
> *Subject:* Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] ESL students and the exam
>
> Interesting one. I've not seen this come up before.
>
> All I know for sure is that all written answers must be in English.
>
> I've not heard of exams in foreign translations (especially in IT; imagine
> the problems translating the specialist vocabulary in proper VCAA-speak.)
> Neither have I heard of human translators being used during exams; the
> authentication problems would be monstrous.
>
> I'm sure Paula has all the answers.
>  On 4 October 2010 11:06, Hewett, W G <Hewett.W.G at edumail.vic.gov.au>
> wrote:
> Hi all
>
> For the first time, I have an ESL student who is asking what type of
> assistance he can have translating the exam paper. His English is
> reasonable, but not comprehensive technically. What do others prvide within
> the guidelines?
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Wayne Hewett
>
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For no reason, my friend became a square, flat surface with four legs. I
rushed him to hospital. His condition is table.
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