[Year 12 IT Apps] ESL students and the exam

[Robert Hind]

So you are saying what I have understood for years

NO dictionaries at all for ESL students in ITA (or Physics, Chemistry, Maths, etc)

Robert Hind (Semi-retired) OOF, GOM (Thanks Kent!)
Ashwood and Traralgon
robert at yinnar.com


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Timmer-Arends 
  To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 6:38 PM
  Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] ESL students and the exam


  Hello all

  be careful about what you tell students. Contrast this http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vcaa/vce/exams/examcovers/Oct_Nov_2010/2010engESL-cov.pdf
  or this http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vcaa/vce/exams/examcovers/Oct_Nov_2010/2010eng-cov.pdf

  with this http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vcaa/vce/exams/examcovers/Oct_Nov_2010/2010itapps-cov.pdf

  Regards
  Robert T-A
  Brighton SC

    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Andrew Shortell 
    To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List 
    Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 8:21 PM
    Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] ESL students and the exam


    hi All 
    I believe they are allowed a dictionary. The exams are proof read by specialist ESL people at VCAA prior to the sitter vetter.
    All answers must be in English since 1991 when someone had to receive a mark in maths because their answer was correct but in Chinese (Rhombus was the word in 1990). 


    Ring the VCAA ESL people and ask for the answer in an email.


    Andrew Shortell
    Wallan SC


    On 04/10/2010, at 1:59 PM, Mann, Warrick D wrote:


      Hi All,
      I have been asking this question to, from what I have been able to find out is that there are no provisions for ESL. All normal rules apply.
      Cheers
      Warrick
      From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Mark KELLY
      Sent: Monday, 4 October 2010 12:47 PM
      To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
      Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] ESL students and the exam
      Interesting one. I've not seen this come up before.  

      All I know for sure is that all written answers must be in English.

      I've not heard of exams in foreign translations (especially in IT; imagine the problems translating the specialist vocabulary in proper VCAA-speak.)  Neither have I heard of human translators being used during exams; the authentication problems would be monstrous.

      I'm sure Paula has all the answers.

      On 4 October 2010 11:06, Hewett, W G <Hewett.W.G at edumail.vic.gov.au> wrote:
      Hi all

      For the first time, I have an ESL student who is asking what type of assistance he can have translating the exam paper. His English is reasonable, but not comprehensive technically. What do others prvide within the guidelines?


      Thanks

      Wayne Hewett

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