[Year 12 IPM] Contributors invited to attach photo to assist
inputting faces to names.
margaret.lawson at konstantkaos.net
margaret.lawson at konstantkaos.net
Wed Dec 6 09:15:13 EST 2006
I am going to agree with Stephen here, if people want to see pictures, I
am sure that we can add our myspace, livejournal or homepage address to
our signatures.
I like the immediacy of the mailing list. This "push technology" is
simple, effective and meets the needs of the teachers on the list. If it
was a web forum that people had to log into, then I don't think it would
have the saturation it has at the moment.
If what we want to do is know who we are talking to, then perhaps a
mailing list meet-up is needed. Or perhaps we can look out for each other
at VITTA PD next year.
Regards
Margaret
> Don't want to change a system that has worked so well ...
> Definitely THE main (if not the ONLY ?) open discussion group among
> teachers
> in Victorian schools.
> DE&T discussion groups are dead in the water (the "pravda" effect - if is
> not unmittigated praise of the newest idea - we don't want you to say it
> out
> loud !)
> Other discussion groups are much smaller and seem to have limited
> traffic.... Any onwe know different.
> Wish we could build similar strength as the old IPM list in English, Maths
> etc .... ??
>
> Kevork is right about the power of the reply button....
> A web forum (e.g. moodle forums) can send out full copies of all mail
> submitted to each subscriber, BUT to reply you need to click, log in and
> compose (or paste) the message into a web form. Not much more BUT just
> enough to possible disrupt the speed and immediacy of the current system.
>
> If it ain't broke.... Don't fix it.....
>
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> there will be one solution, simple and obvious, highly visible to everyone
> else. Murphy's Computer Law 51
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au] On
> Behalf Of Kevork Krozian
> Sent: 05 December 2006 10:05 PM
> To: Year 12 Information Technology Processing and Management
> Teachers'MailingList
> Subject: Re: [Year 12 IPM] Contributors invited to attach photo to assist
> inputting faces to names.
>
> Dear Keith,
>
> I haven't forgotten your request to see if we can have a photo with
> each
> email contribution.
> When an email is sent - and these mailing lists are just an engine for
> distributing emails - posts go to subscriber's mailboxes. They are not
> centrally collated for all to view like web forums . In fact there is very
> little information held about a subscriber on the mail server, except for
> an
> email address and a few options. The server is not constructed as a forum
> and not geared to store objects like photos.
>
> Why not somehow change your system to allow for storage of photos I hear
> you
> ask ??
>
> The answer is it would then have to become a web forum. Emails would not
> necessarily keep coming into each person's mailbox but be stored centrally
> and to access a list, subscribers would have to go into the central forum
> to
> see what is new. Sure, reminders could be sent out but the action would
> then
> happen in a web environment and not a mailing list as we have it now. The
> implications of that are individual accounts for each subscriber,
> maintenance of these accounts and having to log in each time to this web
> based structure to catch up with what is happening versus having all
> messages come to you into your mailbox to do with what you like.
>
> So what to do ?
> Why not invite contributors to attach a photo of no more than 100KB to
> emails that can then be viewed to put faces to names ? If any attempt to
> attach any large images is made there is an automatic block at 1 MB as
> with
> any attachment. Therefore, let us start by attaching our photo to the
> emails
> as a way of getting to know each other.
>
> To entirely ditch the mailing lists and move to a web based forum would
> change the whole character of the mailing lists. If people did not log in
> ,
> they would not be up to date.
>
> With mailing lists it is the server's job to distribute the new posts and
> not the subscriber's to keep logging in to see what is happening.
> So, perhaps we can start by setting an example and posting an attached
> photo
> for others to identify us.
>
> Best Wishes
> Kevork Krozian
> Mailing List Creator and Administrator
> kevork at edulists.com.au
> www.edulists.com.au
> Tel: 0419 356 034
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Keith Richardson" <keithcr at fastmail.fm>
> To: "Year 12 Information Technology Processing and Management
> Teachers'Mailing List" <ipm at edulists.com.au>
> Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2006 7:19 AM
> Subject: Re: [Year 12 IPM] Record for number of messages broken !!!
>
>
>> Dear Santork Kev or is it Santa Kevork - You are indeed "a teacher who
>> changes lives" <<that's a compliment folks>> and in the spirit of
>> Christmas may we all collectively thank you for your listization of us
>> as a group.
>> Some years ago, Kevork, I made a suggestion that for a variety of
>> reasons was not taken up, and I would like to make it again. I have my
>> reasons for this suggestion that crystallized for me during the long
>> lunch periods at this year's VITTA Conference.
>> Each day I looked across the sea of faces, totally frustrated because
>> here were many friends-on-list but I was not able to RECOGNIZE THEIR
>> FACES because all we ever see is their names. I would have loved to
>> drift from list-friend to list-friend, picking up comments and
>> associations, and further enriching our shared experiences for the
>> following year.
>> My suggestion? <<Adjust the email list setup so that a tiny photograph
>> of the sender shows beside their name each time they send replies etc
>> to the list.>> So there you have it. What do others think?
>> Merry Christmas to you all!
>> Keith
>>
>>
>> On Fri, 1 Dec 2006 21:47:25 +1100, "Kevork Krozian"
>> <kevork at edulists.com.au> said:
>>> Hi IPM ( soon to be itapps) colleagues,
>>>
>>> Well you have done it. In Nov 2006 you posted 435 messages ( about
>>> 15 per day ) overtaking the previous record of 424 (Aug 2006) set by
>>> the Business Managers' mailing list. Remember they are at their
>>> desks/computers almost the whole working day and your working day is
>>> a different arrangement.
>>> I hope the interaction was useful as we enter a new dawn ..... not
>>> meaning to be too dramatic.
>>>
>>> While I have your attention. In the next little while the ipm
>>> mailing list will be retired and all subscribers will be moved to the
>>> new list itapps at edulists.com.au . You do not need to do anything. A
>>> message will go out when the changeover ( will it be direct, phased,
> pilot or parallel
>>> ???? -- just kidding ! ) takes place. Just keep replying to the
>>> list. For a while both ipm at edulists.com.au and itapps at edulists.com.au
>>> will go to the same place after which ipm at edulists.com.au will no
>>> longer
>>> exist ........ :( teary eyed ..... I believe it is the first name
>>> change for IPM since 1990, though I am happy to be corrected if that
>>> is wrong.
>>>
>>> A similar announcement will go out to the is at edulists.com.au list
>>> which will convert to sofdev at edulists.com.au .
>>>
>>> The twig on the edulists tree showing ipm will gradually shrink and
>>> be overtaken by the itapps twig and similarly the is twig will give
>>> way to the sofdev one.
>>>
>>> Anyone care to make a speech on the cusp of this momentous occasion or
>>> are we too busy stressing out about next year ? I am not sure about
>>> everyone else but I will have sofdev, yr11it and VET IT which will
>>> all be new next year ( I will also teach Cisco CCNA 1-2 and Cisco CCNA
> 3-4 ).
>>>
>>> With thanks and Best Wishes to all of you
>>>
>>> Kevork Krozian
>>> Mailing List Creator and Administrator kevork at edulists.com.au
>>> www.edulists.com.au
>>> Tel: 0419 356 034
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Roland Gesthuizen
>>> To: Year 12 Information Technology Processing and Management
>>> Teachers'Mailing List
>>> Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 8:30 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Year 12 IPM] U3O2 Virtual Teams
>>>
>>>
>>> G'day Keith, my virtual shoes are ringing (or is it my music player).
>>> Yesterday my memory laces come loose with too many unanswered SMS
>>> pages
>>> and I had to reboot the soles. Enjoy the attached creative writing
>>> essay by one of my IPM students from four years ago.
>>>
>>> (* Clicks heels of his red shoes three times, shouting there is no
>>> place like school, there is no place like school ... *) Apologies to
>>> Dorothy and Toto.
>>>
>>> Regards Roland
>>>
>>>
>>> On 01/12/06, Keith Richardson <keithcr at fastmail.fm> wrote:
>>> G'day Scotty - suggestion - just timetable virtual classes with
>>> virtual
>>> teachers in virtual spaces then the kids stay at home, the teachers
>>> stay
>>> in the staffroom (to be close to the coffee machines), and the
>>> school
>>> puts extra Moodle servers into the empty classrooms. Time becomes
>>> immaterial because classes may be held either synchronously (if you
>>> were
>>> able to put them together in the timetable, and asynchronistically
>>> at
>>> other times. It sounds so good, I might just give it a try
>>> (joking...).
>>> Cheers, Keith
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, 1 Dec 2006 07:26:21 +1100, "Mark Scott"
>>> <msc at staff.luther.vic.edu.au> said:
>>> > Keith
>>> >
>>> > You sound so progressive and dynamic that it is depressing,
>>> especially
>>> > when I am knee deep in the mire trying to build a 2007
>>> timetable and
>>> > haven't looked at the study design yet.
>>> >
>>> > (Pls excuse the whinge)
>>> > Mark Scott
>>> >
>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>> > From: ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au
>>> [mailto:ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au]
>>> > On Behalf Of Keith Richardson
>>> > Sent: Friday, 1 December 2006 6:20 AM
>>> > To: Year 12 Information Technology Processing and Management
>>> > Teachers'Mailing List
>>> > Subject: RE: [Year 12 IPM] U3O2 Virtual Teams
>>> >
>>> > Thank you Mark and Paula - although I don't like it, I can see
>>> where you
>>> > are coming from.
>>> > I personally do not like it because having to 'fake-it' rarely
>>> leaves me
>>> > or the kids satisfied - it seems like science experiments of
>>> old where
>>> > we tell the kids what 'should' have happened even though their
>>> eyes and
>>> > ears tell them that it did not.
>>> > I guess that as long as we expose them to actually functioning
>>> tools
>>> > albeit not in their actual SAC, they can become intuitively
>>> confident
>>> > that such functionality does really exist. In the past I have
>>> > experienced similar frustrations with wanting to have functioning
>>> > databases behind websites.
>>> > However, for myself I intend trying as hard as possible to
>>> achieve
>>> > genuine functionality of appropriate virtual-team-tools within
>>> their SAC
>>> > situation. Time will tell!
>>> > Keith
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 08:29:14 +1100, "Christophersen, Paula P"
>>> > <christophersen.paula.p at edumail.vic.gov.au > said:
>>> > > Mark and colleagues
>>> > >
>>> > > This last interpretation of the outcome (and task
>>> requirements) and
>>> > > advice about teaching and learning and assessment are timely
>>> and
>>> > > correct.
>>> > >
>>> > > Regards
>>> > > Paula
>>> > >
>>> > > Paula Christophersen
>>> > > ICT Curriculum Manager
>>> > > Victorian Curriculum and Assessment
>>> > > Authority
>>> > > 41 St Andrews Place
>>> > > EAST MELBOURNE 3002
>>> > > Phone: 03 9651 4378
>>> > > Fax: 03 9651 4324
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > -----Original Message-----
>>> > > From: ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au
>>> [mailto:ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au]
>>> > > On Behalf Of Mark Kelly
>>> > > Sent: Wednesday, 29 November 2006 8:21 AM
>>> > > To: Year 12 Information Technology Processing and Management
>>> > > Teachers'Mailing List
>>> > > Subject: Re: [Year 12 IPM] U3O2 Virtual Teams
>>> > >
>>> > > Key things to remember abuout ITA U3O2, as I understand it...
>>> > >
>>> > > - Knowledge sharing is part of it, but the solution must also
>>> > facilitate
>>> > >
>>> > > team decision-making. (So a static website with info on it -
>>> as in
>>> > the
>>> > > Potts example - is not good.)
>>> > >
>>> > > - Features that can't be realistically created for real can be
>>> > > simulated. e.g. Create a web forum lookalike screen in
>>> Photoshop; fake
>>> > a
>>> > >
>>> > > web-shopping checkout or online feedback form, or a networked
>>> calendar
>>> > > or booking sheet with graphics buttons and the like. Since
>>> it's a
>>> > > prototype website, such parts do not need to actually work.
>>> So the
>>> > kids
>>> > >
>>> > > don't need to actually set up a Miki or a Woogle, they just
>>> have to
>>> > > indicate that they know it would help the team share info /
>>> make
>>> > > collaborative decisions.
>>> > >
>>> > > - So by all means introduce kids to relevant tools, but don't
>>> freak
>>> > > yourself out unnecessarily about having to use them in the
>>> outcome.
>>> > >
>>> > > As I understand it...
>>> > >
>>> > > Mark
>>> > >
>>> > > Keith Richardson wrote:
>>> > > > I am also very confused by this Geraldine - I am almost
>>> tempted to
>>> > try
>>> > > > to do it in two parts - one with website creation, and one
>>> using our
>>> > > > Moodle in the school setting them the task to design then
>>> create
>>> > > various
>>> > > > cooperative, virtual team tools and be able to demonstrate
>>> that they
>>> > > > actually work. I have not planned more deeply than that yet.
>>> > > > What do others think?
>>> > > > Keith
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > > On Tue, 28 Nov 2006 22:23:11 +1100, "Geraldine McKenna"
>>> > > > <gmckenna at ozemail.com.au> said:
>>> > > >> I still feel quite unclear about what is expected in this
>>> outcome.
>>> > > Would
>>> > > >> a
>>> > > >> link to the Google Docs site mentioned recently suffice or
>>> a link
>>> > to
>>> > > a
>>> > > >> Moodle wiki for sharing knowledge or a blog? Given that we
>>> need to
>>> > > use
>>> > > >> web
>>> > > >> authoring software - Dreamweaver in my case - I can only
>>> imagine
>>> > > creating
>>> > > >> links to other tools rather than actually creating the
>>> knowledge
>>> > > sharing
>>> > > >> capability within the website. Can anyone give more specific
>>> > examples
>>> > > of
>>> > > >> how
>>> > > >> they imagine this prototype website will look?
>>> > > >> Geraldine McKenna
>>> > > >> Avila College
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >> Thanks also for feedback re VET Multimedia. Seems it may
>>> not be a
>>> > > more
>>> > > >> attractive option for girls?
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >> -----Original Message-----
>>> > > >> From: ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au
>>> > > [mailto: ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au]On
>>> > > >> Behalf Of Christophersen, Paula P
>>> > > >> Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 8:33 AM
>>> > > >> To: Year 12 Information Technology Processing and Management
>>> > > >> Teachers'MailingList
>>> > > >> Subject: RE: [Year 12 IPM] U3O2 Virtual Teams
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >> Dear colleagues
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >> It's great to hear this healthy discussion regarding Unit 3,
>>> > Outcome
>>> > > 2.
>>> > > >> I just want to stress that when students independently
>>> develop
>>> > their
>>> > > >> prototype website, it is OK just to simulate
>>> practices/tools rather
>>> > > than
>>> > > >> creating/using them. The main intention of this part of
>>> the outcome
>>> > > is
>>> > > >> for students to demonstrate their understanding of
>>> tools/facilities
>>> > > >> available to support knowledge sharing and collaborative
>>> > > >> decision-making.
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >> So, when completing this assessment task, students would
>>> design the
>>> > > >> website, create the homepage and create/simulate that part
>>> of the
>>> > > >> website that supports knowledge sharing and collaborative
>>> decision
>>> > > >> making. Then, comes the theory part on networking.
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >> Regards
>>> > > >> Paula
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >> Paula Christophersen
>>> > > >> ICT Curriculum Manager
>>> > > >> Victorian Curriculum and Assessment
>>> > > >> Authority
>>> > > >> 41 St Andrews Place
>>> > > >> EAST MELBOURNE 3002
>>> > > >> Phone: 03 9651 4378
>>> > > >> Fax: 03 9651 4324
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >> -----Original Message-----
>>> > > >> From: ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au
>>> > > [mailto:ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au]
>>> > > >> On Behalf Of Cameron Bell
>>> > > >> Sent: Friday, 24 November 2006 8:05 AM
>>> > > >> To: Year 12 Information Technology Processing and Management
>>> > > >> Teachers'Mailing List
>>> > > >> Subject: Re: [Year 12 IPM] U3O2 Virtual Teams
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >> Likewise. I am wondering about setting up a Jabber server
>>> for such
>>> > a
>>> > > >> purpose. Simply to reduce external traffic costs and
>>> bandwidth and
>>> > > keep
>>> > > >> it fully internal and "safer" for students. Has anyone
>>> done this
>>> > yet?
>>> > > >> Would be interested in feedback.
>>> > > >> Cameron
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >> Keith Richardson wrote:
>>> > > >>> Skype has enabled some of the virtual teams I work in to
>>> be fast,
>>> > > >>> efficient and effective, but it is real-time. One also
>>> needs
>>> > > >>> a-synchronous tools too.
>>> > > >>> Keith
>>> > > >>>
>>> > > >>>
>>> > > >>> On Thu, 23 Nov 2006 15:30:47 +1100, "Mark Kelly"
>>> > > >>> <kel at mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au> said:
>>> > > >>>
>>> > > >>>> Yes, but is email a complete solution? It's certainly
>>> relevant
>>> > and
>>> > > >>>> important, but can it achieve everything a virtual team
>>> needs?
>>> > > >>>>
>>> > > >>>> I ask myself (as 3:30 comes and I have to drag myself to a
>>> > > curriculum
>>> > > >>>> meeting) why I'm dragging myself to a meeting. Why
>>> couldn't it
>>> > be
>>> > > >> done
>>> > > >>>> by email? If you can work that out, you may start to
>>> see where
>>> > > >> email's
>>> > > >>>> limitations begin.
>>> > > >>>>
>>> > > >>>> 2.2 cents' worth (GST inc)
>>> > > >>>>
>>> > > >>>> Off to curriculum. VELS again.
>>> > > >>>>
>>> > > >>>> Sigh........
>>> > > >>>>
>>> > > >>>>
>>> > > >>>> jtabone at aitkencollege.edu.au wrote:
>>> > > >>>>
>>> > > >>>>> Dear All
>>> > > >>>>>
>>> > > >>>>> I am reading with interest everyone's comments on U302 -
>>> > > >>>>> collaborative problem solving within virtual teams and am
>>> > > wondering
>>> > > >>>>> if I may be over-simplifying this outcome task
>>> > > >>>>>
>>> > > >>>>> Going by the detailed example in the study design p.
>>> 69-70 we
>>> > are
>>> > > >>>>> given the scenario of university located on one
>>> > > >>>>> "large campus", whereby management has recently formed
>>> as one of
>>> > > >>>>> their key objectives to "strengthen current strategic
>>> > > collaborations
>>> > > >>>>> and forge new alliances that will create new knowledge
>>> ..."
>>> > > >>>>>
>>> > > >>>>> The task is then:
>>> > > >>>>>
>>> > > >>>>> "design and create a prototype website for Sherwood
>>> University
>>> > > that
>>> > > >>>>> will enable various virtual teams ... to realise their
>>> goals and
>>> > > to
>>> > > >>>>> enhance decision making, knowledge sharing and
>>> collaborative
>>> > > problem
>>> > > >>>>> solving"
>>> > > >>>>>
>>> > > >>>>> Couldn't simply having an email link solve this problem
>>> - yes
>>> > you
>>> > > >>>>> would use wikis, blogs, forums, webcasts, and every
>>> other "sexy"
>>> > > >>>>> tool
>>> > > >>>>> - however I can communicate virtually via email to
>>> people with
>>> > the
>>> > > >>>>> same interest (teams)
>>> > > >>>>>
>>> > > >>>>> Really, isn't that what I am doing right now - sending
>>> an email
>>> > to
>>> > > a
>>> > > >>>>> group of people with a common interest and goal and
>>> sharing
>>> > > >>>>> information and receiving information in a collaborative
>>> > > environment
>>> > > >>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>
>>> > > >>>>> Just my thoughts
>>> > > >>>>>
>>> > > >>>>> Cheers
>>> > > >>>>> Joyce Tabone
>>> > > >>>>> Aitken College
>>> > > >>>>>
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