[Year 12 IPM] Contributors invited to attach photo to assist in
putting faces to names.
Keith Richardson
keithcr at fastmail.fm
Wed Dec 6 09:38:26 EST 2006
My apologies Kevork - I had no idea that my request had so many
complicated strings attached.
So here goes, with a tiny 2Kb attached image.
Thank you Kevork, for your detailed reply.
Marry christmas, Keith
On Tue, 5 Dec 2006 22:05:08 +1100, "Kevork Krozian"
<kevork at edulists.com.au> said:
> Dear Keith,
>
> I haven't forgotten your request to see if we can have a photo with
> each
> email contribution.
> When an email is sent - and these mailing lists are just an engine for
> distributing emails - posts go to subscriber's mailboxes. They are not
> centrally collated for all to view like web forums . In fact there is
> very
> little information held about a subscriber on the mail server, except for
> an
> email address and a few options. The server is not constructed as a forum
> and not geared to store objects like photos.
>
> Why not somehow change your system to allow for storage of photos I hear
> you
> ask ??
>
> The answer is it would then have to become a web forum. Emails would not
> necessarily keep coming into each person's mailbox but be stored
> centrally
> and to access a list, subscribers would have to go into the central forum
> to
> see what is new. Sure, reminders could be sent out but the action would
> then
> happen in a web environment and not a mailing list as we have it now. The
> implications of that are individual accounts for each subscriber,
> maintenance of these accounts and having to log in each time to this web
> based structure to catch up with what is happening versus having all
> messages come to you into your mailbox to do with what you like.
>
> So what to do ?
> Why not invite contributors to attach a photo of no more than 100KB to
> emails that can then be viewed to put faces to names ? If any attempt to
> attach any large images is made there is an automatic block at 1 MB as
> with
> any attachment. Therefore, let us start by attaching our photo to the
> emails
> as a way of getting to know each other.
>
> To entirely ditch the mailing lists and move to a web based forum would
> change the whole character of the mailing lists. If people did not log in
> ,
> they would not be up to date.
>
> With mailing lists it is the server's job to distribute the new posts and
> not the subscriber's to keep logging in to see what is happening.
> So, perhaps we can start by setting an example and posting an attached
> photo
> for others to identify us.
>
> Best Wishes
> Kevork Krozian
> Mailing List Creator and Administrator
> kevork at edulists.com.au
> www.edulists.com.au
> Tel: 0419 356 034
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Keith Richardson" <keithcr at fastmail.fm>
> To: "Year 12 Information Technology Processing and Management
> Teachers'Mailing List" <ipm at edulists.com.au>
> Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2006 7:19 AM
> Subject: Re: [Year 12 IPM] Record for number of messages broken !!!
>
>
> > Dear Santork Kev or is it Santa Kevork - You are indeed "a teacher who
> > changes lives" <<that's a compliment folks>> and in the spirit of
> > Christmas may we all collectively thank you for your listization of us
> > as a group.
> > Some years ago, Kevork, I made a suggestion that for a variety of
> > reasons was not taken up, and I would like to make it again. I have my
> > reasons for this suggestion that crystallized for me during the long
> > lunch periods at this year's VITTA Conference.
> > Each day I looked across the sea of faces, totally frustrated because
> > here were many friends-on-list but I was not able to RECOGNIZE THEIR
> > FACES because all we ever see is their names. I would have loved to
> > drift from list-friend to list-friend, picking up comments and
> > associations, and further enriching our shared experiences for the
> > following year.
> > My suggestion? <<Adjust the email list setup so that a tiny photograph
> > of the sender shows beside their name each time they send replies etc to
> > the list.>>
> > So there you have it. What do others think?
> > Merry Christmas to you all!
> > Keith
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 1 Dec 2006 21:47:25 +1100, "Kevork Krozian"
> > <kevork at edulists.com.au> said:
> >> Hi IPM ( soon to be itapps) colleagues,
> >>
> >> Well you have done it. In Nov 2006 you posted 435 messages ( about 15
> >> per day ) overtaking the previous record of 424 (Aug 2006) set by the
> >> Business Managers' mailing list. Remember they are at their
> >> desks/computers almost the whole working day and your working day is a
> >> different arrangement.
> >> I hope the interaction was useful as we enter a new dawn ..... not
> >> meaning to be too dramatic.
> >>
> >> While I have your attention. In the next little while the ipm mailing
> >> list will be retired and all subscribers will be moved to the new list
> >> itapps at edulists.com.au . You do not need to do anything. A message will
> >> go out when the changeover ( will it be direct, phased, pilot or parallel
> >> ???? -- just kidding ! ) takes place. Just keep replying to the
> >> list. For a while both ipm at edulists.com.au and itapps at edulists.com.au
> >> will go to the same place after which ipm at edulists.com.au will no longer
> >> exist ........ :( teary eyed ..... I believe it is the first name
> >> change for IPM since 1990, though I am happy to be corrected if that is
> >> wrong.
> >>
> >> A similar announcement will go out to the is at edulists.com.au list which
> >> will convert to sofdev at edulists.com.au .
> >>
> >> The twig on the edulists tree showing ipm will gradually shrink and be
> >> overtaken by the itapps twig and similarly the is twig will give way to
> >> the sofdev one.
> >>
> >> Anyone care to make a speech on the cusp of this momentous occasion or
> >> are we too busy stressing out about next year ? I am not sure about
> >> everyone else but I will have sofdev, yr11it and VET IT which will all
> >> be new next year ( I will also teach Cisco CCNA 1-2 and Cisco CCNA 3-4 ).
> >>
> >> With thanks and Best Wishes to all of you
> >>
> >> Kevork Krozian
> >> Mailing List Creator and Administrator
> >> kevork at edulists.com.au
> >> www.edulists.com.au
> >> Tel: 0419 356 034
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: Roland Gesthuizen
> >> To: Year 12 Information Technology Processing and Management
> >> Teachers'Mailing List
> >> Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 8:30 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [Year 12 IPM] U3O2 Virtual Teams
> >>
> >>
> >> G'day Keith, my virtual shoes are ringing (or is it my music player).
> >> Yesterday my memory laces come loose with too many unanswered SMS pages
> >> and I had to reboot the soles. Enjoy the attached creative writing
> >> essay by one of my IPM students from four years ago.
> >>
> >> (* Clicks heels of his red shoes three times, shouting there is no
> >> place like school, there is no place like school ... *) Apologies to
> >> Dorothy and Toto.
> >>
> >> Regards Roland
> >>
> >>
> >> On 01/12/06, Keith Richardson <keithcr at fastmail.fm> wrote:
> >> G'day Scotty - suggestion - just timetable virtual classes with
> >> virtual
> >> teachers in virtual spaces then the kids stay at home, the teachers
> >> stay
> >> in the staffroom (to be close to the coffee machines), and the school
> >> puts extra Moodle servers into the empty classrooms. Time becomes
> >> immaterial because classes may be held either synchronously (if you
> >> were
> >> able to put them together in the timetable, and asynchronistically at
> >> other times. It sounds so good, I might just give it a try
> >> (joking...).
> >> Cheers, Keith
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, 1 Dec 2006 07:26:21 +1100, "Mark Scott"
> >> <msc at staff.luther.vic.edu.au> said:
> >> > Keith
> >> >
> >> > You sound so progressive and dynamic that it is depressing,
> >> especially
> >> > when I am knee deep in the mire trying to build a 2007 timetable
> >> and
> >> > haven't looked at the study design yet.
> >> >
> >> > (Pls excuse the whinge)
> >> > Mark Scott
> >> >
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au
> >> [mailto:ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au]
> >> > On Behalf Of Keith Richardson
> >> > Sent: Friday, 1 December 2006 6:20 AM
> >> > To: Year 12 Information Technology Processing and Management
> >> > Teachers'Mailing List
> >> > Subject: RE: [Year 12 IPM] U3O2 Virtual Teams
> >> >
> >> > Thank you Mark and Paula - although I don't like it, I can see
> >> where you
> >> > are coming from.
> >> > I personally do not like it because having to 'fake-it' rarely
> >> leaves me
> >> > or the kids satisfied - it seems like science experiments of old
> >> where
> >> > we tell the kids what 'should' have happened even though their eyes
> >> and
> >> > ears tell them that it did not.
> >> > I guess that as long as we expose them to actually functioning
> >> tools
> >> > albeit not in their actual SAC, they can become intuitively
> >> confident
> >> > that such functionality does really exist. In the past I have
> >> > experienced similar frustrations with wanting to have functioning
> >> > databases behind websites.
> >> > However, for myself I intend trying as hard as possible to achieve
> >> > genuine functionality of appropriate virtual-team-tools within
> >> their SAC
> >> > situation. Time will tell!
> >> > Keith
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 08:29:14 +1100, "Christophersen, Paula P"
> >> > <christophersen.paula.p at edumail.vic.gov.au > said:
> >> > > Mark and colleagues
> >> > >
> >> > > This last interpretation of the outcome (and task requirements)
> >> and
> >> > > advice about teaching and learning and assessment are timely and
> >> > > correct.
> >> > >
> >> > > Regards
> >> > > Paula
> >> > >
> >> > > Paula Christophersen
> >> > > ICT Curriculum Manager
> >> > > Victorian Curriculum and Assessment
> >> > > Authority
> >> > > 41 St Andrews Place
> >> > > EAST MELBOURNE 3002
> >> > > Phone: 03 9651 4378
> >> > > Fax: 03 9651 4324
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > From: ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au
> >> [mailto:ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au]
> >> > > On Behalf Of Mark Kelly
> >> > > Sent: Wednesday, 29 November 2006 8:21 AM
> >> > > To: Year 12 Information Technology Processing and Management
> >> > > Teachers'Mailing List
> >> > > Subject: Re: [Year 12 IPM] U3O2 Virtual Teams
> >> > >
> >> > > Key things to remember abuout ITA U3O2, as I understand it...
> >> > >
> >> > > - Knowledge sharing is part of it, but the solution must also
> >> > facilitate
> >> > >
> >> > > team decision-making. (So a static website with info on it - as
> >> in
> >> > the
> >> > > Potts example - is not good.)
> >> > >
> >> > > - Features that can't be realistically created for real can be
> >> > > simulated. e.g. Create a web forum lookalike screen in Photoshop;
> >> fake
> >> > a
> >> > >
> >> > > web-shopping checkout or online feedback form, or a networked
> >> calendar
> >> > > or booking sheet with graphics buttons and the like. Since it's
> >> a
> >> > > prototype website, such parts do not need to actually work. So
> >> the
> >> > kids
> >> > >
> >> > > don't need to actually set up a Miki or a Woogle, they just have
> >> to
> >> > > indicate that they know it would help the team share info / make
> >> > > collaborative decisions.
> >> > >
> >> > > - So by all means introduce kids to relevant tools, but don't
> >> freak
> >> > > yourself out unnecessarily about having to use them in the
> >> outcome.
> >> > >
> >> > > As I understand it...
> >> > >
> >> > > Mark
> >> > >
> >> > > Keith Richardson wrote:
> >> > > > I am also very confused by this Geraldine - I am almost tempted
> >> to
> >> > try
> >> > > > to do it in two parts - one with website creation, and one
> >> using our
> >> > > > Moodle in the school setting them the task to design then
> >> create
> >> > > various
> >> > > > cooperative, virtual team tools and be able to demonstrate that
> >> they
> >> > > > actually work. I have not planned more deeply than that yet.
> >> > > > What do others think?
> >> > > > Keith
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > On Tue, 28 Nov 2006 22:23:11 +1100, "Geraldine McKenna"
> >> > > > <gmckenna at ozemail.com.au> said:
> >> > > >> I still feel quite unclear about what is expected in this
> >> outcome.
> >> > > Would
> >> > > >> a
> >> > > >> link to the Google Docs site mentioned recently suffice or a
> >> link
> >> > to
> >> > > a
> >> > > >> Moodle wiki for sharing knowledge or a blog? Given that we
> >> need to
> >> > > use
> >> > > >> web
> >> > > >> authoring software - Dreamweaver in my case - I can only
> >> imagine
> >> > > creating
> >> > > >> links to other tools rather than actually creating the
> >> knowledge
> >> > > sharing
> >> > > >> capability within the website. Can anyone give more specific
> >> > examples
> >> > > of
> >> > > >> how
> >> > > >> they imagine this prototype website will look?
> >> > > >> Geraldine McKenna
> >> > > >> Avila College
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> Thanks also for feedback re VET Multimedia. Seems it may not
> >> be a
> >> > > more
> >> > > >> attractive option for girls?
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> -----Original Message-----
> >> > > >> From: ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au
> >> > > [mailto: ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au]On
> >> > > >> Behalf Of Christophersen, Paula P
> >> > > >> Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 8:33 AM
> >> > > >> To: Year 12 Information Technology Processing and Management
> >> > > >> Teachers'MailingList
> >> > > >> Subject: RE: [Year 12 IPM] U3O2 Virtual Teams
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> Dear colleagues
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> It's great to hear this healthy discussion regarding Unit 3,
> >> > Outcome
> >> > > 2.
> >> > > >> I just want to stress that when students independently develop
> >> > their
> >> > > >> prototype website, it is OK just to simulate practices/tools
> >> rather
> >> > > than
> >> > > >> creating/using them. The main intention of this part of the
> >> outcome
> >> > > is
> >> > > >> for students to demonstrate their understanding of
> >> tools/facilities
> >> > > >> available to support knowledge sharing and collaborative
> >> > > >> decision-making.
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> So, when completing this assessment task, students would
> >> design the
> >> > > >> website, create the homepage and create/simulate that part of
> >> the
> >> > > >> website that supports knowledge sharing and collaborative
> >> decision
> >> > > >> making. Then, comes the theory part on networking.
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> Regards
> >> > > >> Paula
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> Paula Christophersen
> >> > > >> ICT Curriculum Manager
> >> > > >> Victorian Curriculum and Assessment
> >> > > >> Authority
> >> > > >> 41 St Andrews Place
> >> > > >> EAST MELBOURNE 3002
> >> > > >> Phone: 03 9651 4378
> >> > > >> Fax: 03 9651 4324
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> -----Original Message-----
> >> > > >> From: ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au
> >> > > [mailto:ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au]
> >> > > >> On Behalf Of Cameron Bell
> >> > > >> Sent: Friday, 24 November 2006 8:05 AM
> >> > > >> To: Year 12 Information Technology Processing and Management
> >> > > >> Teachers'Mailing List
> >> > > >> Subject: Re: [Year 12 IPM] U3O2 Virtual Teams
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> Likewise. I am wondering about setting up a Jabber server for
> >> such
> >> > a
> >> > > >> purpose. Simply to reduce external traffic costs and bandwidth
> >> and
> >> > > keep
> >> > > >> it fully internal and "safer" for students. Has anyone done
> >> this
> >> > yet?
> >> > > >> Would be interested in feedback.
> >> > > >> Cameron
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> Keith Richardson wrote:
> >> > > >>> Skype has enabled some of the virtual teams I work in to be
> >> fast,
> >> > > >>> efficient and effective, but it is real-time. One also needs
> >> > > >>> a-synchronous tools too.
> >> > > >>> Keith
> >> > > >>>
> >> > > >>>
> >> > > >>> On Thu, 23 Nov 2006 15:30:47 +1100, "Mark Kelly"
> >> > > >>> <kel at mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au> said:
> >> > > >>>
> >> > > >>>> Yes, but is email a complete solution? It's certainly
> >> relevant
> >> > and
> >> > > >>>> important, but can it achieve everything a virtual team
> >> needs?
> >> > > >>>>
> >> > > >>>> I ask myself (as 3:30 comes and I have to drag myself to a
> >> > > curriculum
> >> > > >>>> meeting) why I'm dragging myself to a meeting. Why couldn't
> >> it
> >> > be
> >> > > >> done
> >> > > >>>> by email? If you can work that out, you may start to see
> >> where
> >> > > >> email's
> >> > > >>>> limitations begin.
> >> > > >>>>
> >> > > >>>> 2.2 cents' worth (GST inc)
> >> > > >>>>
> >> > > >>>> Off to curriculum. VELS again.
> >> > > >>>>
> >> > > >>>> Sigh........
> >> > > >>>>
> >> > > >>>>
> >> > > >>>> jtabone at aitkencollege.edu.au wrote:
> >> > > >>>>
> >> > > >>>>> Dear All
> >> > > >>>>>
> >> > > >>>>> I am reading with interest everyone's comments on U302 -
> >> > > >>>>> collaborative problem solving within virtual teams and am
> >> > > wondering
> >> > > >>>>> if I may be over-simplifying this outcome task
> >> > > >>>>>
> >> > > >>>>> Going by the detailed example in the study design p. 69-70
> >> we
> >> > are
> >> > > >>>>> given the scenario of university located on one
> >> > > >>>>> "large campus", whereby management has recently formed as
> >> one of
> >> > > >>>>> their key objectives to "strengthen current strategic
> >> > > collaborations
> >> > > >>>>> and forge new alliances that will create new knowledge ..."
> >> > > >>>>>
> >> > > >>>>> The task is then:
> >> > > >>>>>
> >> > > >>>>> "design and create a prototype website for Sherwood
> >> University
> >> > > that
> >> > > >>>>> will enable various virtual teams ... to realise their
> >> goals and
> >> > > to
> >> > > >>>>> enhance decision making, knowledge sharing and
> >> collaborative
> >> > > problem
> >> > > >>>>> solving"
> >> > > >>>>>
> >> > > >>>>> Couldn't simply having an email link solve this problem -
> >> yes
> >> > you
> >> > > >>>>> would use wikis, blogs, forums, webcasts, and every other
> >> "sexy"
> >> > > >>>>> tool
> >> > > >>>>> - however I can communicate virtually via email to people
> >> with
> >> > the
> >> > > >>>>> same interest (teams)
> >> > > >>>>>
> >> > > >>>>> Really, isn't that what I am doing right now - sending an
> >> email
> >> > to
> >> > > a
> >> > > >>>>> group of people with a common interest and goal and sharing
> >> > > >>>>> information and receiving information in a collaborative
> >> > > environment
> >> > > >>>>>
> >> > > >>>>>
> >> > > >>>>> Just my thoughts
> >> > > >>>>>
> >> > > >>>>> Cheers
> >> > > >>>>> Joyce Tabone
> >> > > >>>>> Aitken College
> >> > > >>>>>
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Ph: 03.9528.4911
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