[Year 12 IPM] IPM New to list

Mon Dec 5 21:10:59 EST 2005

True, and if it becomes quickly obvious after a month or two that they 
will not do well, they can withdraw and switch over, working instead 
towards Unit 1 and 2. There is a cut-off date for changes to enrollments 
in a VCE unit and often by that date I have a reasonable idea how well 
they go with the rest of the unit.

Regards Roland

Robert Hind wrote:

> Yes you should dare say it Mark.
>  
> But it does need a "culture shift": with the "kids" as well as with 
> the teachers.
>  
> The kids can no longer say "you didn't teach me this" as an excuse for 
> doing b***** all in class. So if we can bring about that culture shift 
> then ok.
>  
> But! Robert: Why not put all your kids into IP&M? There are no 
> prerequisites for units 3 and 4 so if the kids can cope then go for it 
> and have them all doing IP&M. This is what we are doing at Ashwood for 
> 2006.
>  
>  
> Robert Hind
> Ashwood College
>  
>  
>  
> ----- Original Message -----
>
>     *From:* Mark Scott <mailto:msc at staff.luther.vic.edu.au>
>     *To:* Year 12 Information Technology Processing and Management
>     Teachers'MailingList <mailto:ipm at edulists.com.au>
>     *Sent:* Monday, December 05, 2005 4:32 PM
>     *Subject:* RE: [Year 12 IPM] IPM New to list
>
>     *Dare I say it?*
>
>     * *
>
>     *Why not.*
>
>     * *
>
>     *It can be done just have the kids learn rather being taught.*
>
>     * *
>
>     *Mark Scott***
>
>     *Luther** College***
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>     * *
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>     * *
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>     *From:* ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au
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>     [mailto:ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au] *On Behalf Of *Meadows, Roslyn M
>     *Sent:* Monday, 5 December 2005 4:19
>     *To:* Year 12 Information Technology Processing and Management
>     Teachers'Mailing List
>     *Subject:* RE: [Year 12 IPM] IPM New to list
>
>      
>
>     I wonder if History teachers are ever asked to teach Australian
>     History and Revolutions in the same class.?
>
>      
>
>     Just because IPM and VET Cert III both involve computers does not
>     mean they can necessarily be taught effectively at the same time
>     in the same room.
>
>      
>
>     Good Luck Colin - I hope your DP is prepared to share his
>     experiences and strategies with you.
>
>      
>
>     Ros Meadows
>
>     Bentleigh SC
>
>     9579 1044
>
>     meadows.roslyn.m at edumail.vic.gov.au
>     <mailto:meadows.roslyn.m at edumail.vic.gov.au>
>
>      
>
>     "Furious activity is no substitute for understanding." *H. H.
>     Williams*
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>      
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>     *From:* ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of Robert Minato
>     *Sent:* Mon 12/5/2005 2:22 PM
>     *To:* Year 12 Information Technology Processing and Management
>     Teachers'Mailing List
>     *Subject:* Re: [Year 12 IPM] IPM New to list
>
>     You're quite right, it's not my idea.
>
>     Haven't had a chance to look at it much as yet. My DP tells me it
>     can be
>     done, he is doing it now.
>
>
>     --
>     Robert Minato
>     Teacher
>     Catholic College Wodonga
>     02 6059 1222
>
>
>     On 5/12/05 1:14 PM, "Lel, Ronald A"
>     <lel.ronald.a at edumail.vic.gov.au> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au
>     [mailto:ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au]
>> On Behalf Of Colin White
>> Sent: Sunday, 4 December 2005 7:37 PM
>> To: Year 12 Information Technology Processing and Management
>> Teachers'MailingList
>> Subject: Re: [Year 12 IPM] IPM New to list
>>
>>
>> Welcome Robert,
>>
>> As an ex NSW teacher (living in Albury) I have now moved to Portland,
>> Victoria and just taught IPM this year for the first time.
>>
>> Next year I am teaching IPM again and the first year of VET IT
>     (cert 3)
>> in a
>> combined class.
>>
>> snipped
>>
>> Colin White
>> Heywood & District Secondary College
>>
>> Snipped
>>
>> As a matter of interested, I would like to know how you are going
>     to do
>> this. The two subjects are quite different. I guess that this was
>> certainly not your idea.
>>
>> Ron Lel
>> Croydon Secondary College
>>
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