[Year 12 IPM] IPM New to list

Robert Minato rminato at ccw.vic.edu.au
Tue Dec 6 08:28:34 EST 2005


Some of the class are only YR10s and I believe far from ready for IPM.
Numbers were such that the subject wasn¹t initially going to run; however,
sufficient students were available to do it as a combined class.

It ran as a combined class this year.


-- 
Robert Minato
Teacher
Catholic College Wodonga
02 6059 1222



On 5/12/05 9:10 PM, "Roland Gesthuizen" <rge at westallsc.vic.edu.au> wrote:

> True, and if it becomes quickly obvious after a month or two that they will
> not do well, they can withdraw and switch over, working instead towards Unit 1
> and 2. There is a cut-off date for changes to enrollments in a VCE unit and
> often by that date I have a reasonable idea how well they go with the rest of
> the unit.
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> Regards Roland
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> Robert Hind wrote:
>>  Re: [Year 12 IPM] IPM New to list
>> Yes you should dare say it Mark.
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>> But! Robert: Why not put all your kids into IP&M? There are no prerequisites
>> for units 3 and 4 so if the kids can cope then go for it and have them all
>> doing IP&M. This is what we are doing at Ashwood for 2006.
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>>> From:  Mark Scott <mailto:msc at staff.luther.vic.edu.au>
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>>> Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 4:32 PM
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>>> Dare I say it?
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>>> From: ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au] On
>>> Behalf Of Meadows, Roslyn M
>>>  Sent: Monday, 5 December 2005 4:19
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>>>  Subject: RE: [Year 12 IPM] IPM New to list
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>>> I wonder if History teachers are ever asked to teach Australian History and
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>>> Just because IPM and VET Cert III both involve computers does not mean they
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>>> Good Luck Colin - I hope your DP is prepared to share his experiences and
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>>> "Furious activity is no substitute for understanding." H. H. Williams
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>>> From: ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of Robert Minato
>>>  Sent: Mon 12/5/2005 2:22 PM
>>>  To: Year 12 Information Technology Processing and Management
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>>>  Subject: Re: [Year 12 IPM] IPM New to list
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>>> You're quite right, it's not my idea.
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>>> Haven't had a chance to look at it much as yet. My DP tells me it can be
>>> done, he is doing it now.
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>>> --
>>> Robert Minato
>>> Teacher
>>>  Catholic  College Wodonga
>>> 02 6059 1222
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>>> On 5/12/05 1:14 PM, "Lel, Ronald A" <lel.ronald.a at edumail.vic.gov.au>
>>> <mailto:lel.ronald.a at edumail.vic.gov.au>  wrote:
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>>>> > From: ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au]
>>>> > On Behalf Of Colin White
>>>> > Sent: Sunday, 4 December 2005 7:37 PM
>>>> > To: Year 12 Information Technology Processing and Management
>>>> > Teachers'MailingList
>>>> > Subject: Re: [Year 12 IPM] IPM New to list
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>>>> > Welcome Robert,
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>>>> > As an ex NSW teacher (living in Albury) I have now moved to Portland,
>>>> > Victoria and just taught IPM this year for the first time.
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>>>> > Next year I am teaching IPM again and the first year of VET IT (cert 3)
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>>>> > Colin White
>>>> > Heywood & District  Secondary College
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>>>> > As a matter of interested, I would like to know how you are going to do
>>>> > this. The two subjects are quite different. I guess that this was
>>>> > certainly not your idea.
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>>>> > Ron Lel
>>>> > Croydon  Secondary College
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