[Informatics] [Year 12 SofDev] Enrolment numbers

Mark mark at vceit.com
Thu May 23 05:03:37 UTC 2019 

OK. Here goes.

I don't know how many kids choose VCE subjects as part of a deliberate
career path. I suspect many do.
e.g.

   - An aspiring actor chooses VCE Drama.
   - A budding programmer chooses VCE Software Development.
   - A conceited, power-hungry moron chooses VCE Politics.

Who would choose *Informatics* as a career path?
Where would an 'A+' in Informatics get you in a job interview?
What tertiary courses are calling for VCE Informatics high-fliers?

Maybe Informatics/Data Analytics and their later generations need to pick a
career path and concentrate on delivering skills for that path.
e.g.

   - IT systems management (to train the small-medium business company IT
   guy who does all things IT)
   - IT security (a huge field in itself, and growing more important every
   day)
   - Hardware design and theory (is there a VCE course for that? There
   should be!)
   - System Analysis - all systems need their analysts.
   - Network engineering, architecture and administration
   - Database Engineering. Purely for masochists with a career path.
   - User interface design
   - Web development - toss the other incidental stuff and just focus on *the
   one topic* in depth for a year. CSS, Ajax, HTML, PERL, Javascript,
   Apache etc

I think once the subject has a raison d´être, and it focuses on it like SD
does, it will earn a following.

As it is, Informatics tries to be everything for everyone and doesn't
satisfy anyone's needs.
It needs to choose a path (like SD does) and proudly *stick with it*.

Another 2.2 cents. Golly, that's 4.4c today.

Mark

On Thu, 23 May 2019 at 14:26, Mark <mark at vceit.com> wrote:

> I cynically suspect that the Informatics course was trying to exploit
> students' interest in soft sciences like psych and sociology and
> communication-rich exercises (the MMOS) - maybe to lure oestrogen-enabled
> punters.
>
> Didn't work.
>
> Kids who wanted IT expected to get IT.
> Informatics gave them hypotheses, stats, and just enough IT to make these
> happen.
>
> Kids who want soft science and communications do psych/sociology/drama.
> Informatics gave them 2NF, The Privacy Act 1988 and user flow diagrams.
>
> Informatics didn't really deliver anything much to anyone.
> As I've said before, I believe IPM/ITA/Informatics is still riding through
> the desert on a horse with no name looking for an identity.
>
> Just my 2.2 cents. Spend it wisely.
>
> 😲
>
> On Thu, 23 May 2019 at 12:11, Lisa Kerekes <
> Lisa.Kerekes at donvale.vic.edu.au> wrote:
>
>> The numbers seem to reflect young people’s desire to learn about
>> themselves and the world, to help others, and make a difference.
>>
>> Q: How can Computing show its relevance (and perhaps applications for
>> tech to solve problems) in these areas?
>>
>> Just what went through my mind.
>>
>> Lisa K
>>
>>
>> > On 23 May 2019, at 10:11 am, Rattan, Kushum L <
>> rattan.kushum.l at edumail.vic.gov.au> wrote:
>> >
>> > Another growing subject at my school is Sociology where they look at
>> all the current issues facing societies such as refugees, terrorism,
>> migration, ageing etc and the kids love it.
>> >
>> > Kushum Rattan
>> > ICT Curriculum Area Leader
>> > VET Co-ordinator
>> > Gisborne Secondary College
>> > Phone: 03 54283691
>> > rattan.kushum.l at edumail.vic.gov.au
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: sofdev <sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au> On Behalf Of Stephen
>> Trouse
>> > Sent: Thursday, 23 May 2019 8:03 AM
>> > To: sofdev at edulists.com.au
>> > Subject: [Year 12 SofDev] Enrolment numbers
>> >
>> > As I suspected.  Psych numbers burgeoning!  The future is therapy!
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: sofdev <sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au> On Behalf Of
>> sofdev-request at edulists.com.au
>> > Sent: Wednesday, 22 May 2019 4:15 PM
>> > To: sofdev at edulists.com.au
>> > Subject: sofdev Digest, Vol 168, Issue 49
>>
>> >
>> > Message: 1
>> > Date: Wed, 22 May 2019 16:20:10 +1000
>> > From: Mark <mark at vceit.com>
>> > To: "Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List"
>> > <sofdev at edulists.com.au>
>> > Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Enrollment Numbers
>> > Message-ID:
>> > <CACu=8Z0vU7F3wwbLQR5mEom8QzqcR5e4KnEpcJiFwS87xgJXfw at mail.gmail.com>
>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>> >
>> > *2001*
>> > *Psych U1*
>> > Male 2,922
>> > Female 10,179
>> > Total 13,101
>> >
>> > *Psych U3*
>> > M 2,852
>> > F 10,068
>> > Total 12,920
>> >
>> > ---------------------------
>> > *2018*
>> > *Psych U1*
>> > M 5,119
>> > F 12,605
>> > Total 17,739 (includes 15 intersex students)
>> >
>> > *Psych U3*
>> > M 4,479
>> > F 11,435
>> > Total 15,927 (includes 13 intersex students)
>> >
>> > *Boys are picking up psych!*
>> >
>> >
>> >> On Wed, 22 May 2019 at 15:14, Stephen Trouse <
>> Stephen.Trouse at flinders.vic.edu.au> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I'd like to see the numbers for Psychology as a comparison.
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: sofdev <sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au> On Behalf Of
>> >> sofdev-request at edulists.com.au
>> >> Sent: Wednesday, 22 May 2019 2:39 PM
>> >> To: sofdev at edulists.com.au
>> >> Subject: sofdev Digest, Vol 168, Issue 45
>> >>
>> >> Send sofdev mailing list submissions to
>> >>        sofdev at edulists.com.au
>> >>
>>
>> >>
>> >>   1. Re: Enrollment Numbers (Litsa Tzelepis)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >>
>> >> Message: 1
>> >> Date: Wed, 22 May 2019 14:44:10 +1000
>> >> From: Litsa Tzelepis <htzelepis at msj.vic.edu.au>
>> >> To: "Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List"
>> >>        <sofdev at edulists.com.au>
>> >> Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Enrollment Numbers
>> >> Message-ID:
>> >>        <
>> >> CAODCwv9uvQAv8WvYd8meoSerjZUCJOhSYqHdF605p-eUzney_Q at mail.gmail.com>
>> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>> >>
>> >> no no - mark collated the data and chart while I was shuffling papers
>> >> - he's the genius -
>> >> 😃
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, May 22, 2019 at 2:20 PM Jolly, Michael D <
>> >> Jolly.Michael.D at edumail.vic.gov.au> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Wow!
>> >>>
>> >>> Oh yeah, and “good job”!
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Mike Jolly from Kyneton
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> *From:* sofdev <sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au> *On Behalf Of *Litsa
>> >>> Tzelepis
>> >>> *Sent:* Wednesday, 22 May 2019 1:45 PM
>> >>> *To:* Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List <
>> >>> sofdev at edulists.com.au>
>> >>> *Subject:* Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Enrollment Numbers
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> so.... for the last hour I have been clicking around with a notepad
>> >>> and 2B pencil - lol
>> >>>
>> >>> thanks mark - litsa
>> >>>
>> >>> 📝
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Wed, May 22, 2019 at 1:31 PM Mark <mark at vceit.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> IT enrolments - the complete sad tale from 2001 to 2018
>> >>>
>> >>> [image: computing enrolments 2001-2018.jpg]
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> You can get the full XLSX in the attachment. Let me know if you have
>> >>> issues with it - I created in in LibreOffice.
>> >>>
>> >>> (And yes, it includes male and female breakdowns.)
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Enjoy - and try not to weep.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Regards,
>> >>>
>> >>> Mark
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Wed, 22 May 2019 at 12:37, Litsa Tzelepis
>> >>> <htzelepis at msj.vic.edu.au>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Excellent everyone - I really appreciate your help?
>> >>>
>> >>> Litsa 🌻
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Wed, May 22, 2019 at 12:07 PM Scott Wallace <
>> >>> Scott.Wallace at beaconhills.vic.edu.au> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Any chance of getting the breakdown between male and female
>> enrolments?
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> *Scott Wallace *
>> >>>
>> >>> *Head of House (Rich) *
>> >>>
>> >>> *Head of Campus eLearning and Information Technology*
>> >>>
>> >>> *Beaconhills College, Pakenham*
>> >>>
>> >>> *(03) 5945-3014*
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> *[image: email_Sig]*
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> *From:* sofdev <sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au> *On Behalf Of *Mark
>> >>> *Sent:* Wednesday, 22 May 2019 12:06 PM
>> >>> *To:* Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List <
>> >>> sofdev at edulists.com.au>
>> >>> *Subject:* Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Enrollment Numbers
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> hehehe. I followed Geoff's link and was amused to find the
>> >>> enrolments in
>> >>> *2001*:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> IT 1 - *17,113*
>> >>>
>> >>> Information Processing and Management U3 - *13,344*
>> >>>
>> >>> Information Systems U3 (SD) - *3,346*
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> And in *2015*...
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> IT1 - *4,959*
>> >>>
>> >>> IT Apps - *2,651*
>> >>>
>> >>> SD - *1,385*
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> How times change
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Wed, 22 May 2019 at 11:48, Mark <mark at vceit.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Earlier I found 2016 and 2017.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> [image: computing 2016-2017.jpg]
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> I just found 2018 here
>> >>> <https://aus01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fw
>> >>> ww
>> >>> .vcaa.vic.edu.au%2FPages%2Fvce%2Fstatistics%2F2018%2Fstatssect2.aspx
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>> >>> ved=0>
>> >>> .
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> [image: computing 2016-2018.jpg]
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Informatics died a long, horrible - yet predictable - death.
>> >>>
>> >>> 💀
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Wed, 22 May 2019 at 10:28, Litsa Tzelepis
>> >>> <htzelepis at msj.vic.edu.au>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Good morning,
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> is there anywhere that I can access the enrollment numbers for
>> >>> Computing
>> >>> (11 & 12) over the last few years?
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> We are heading into subject selection confirmation lists over the
>> >>> next few days.
>> >>>
>> >>> I'd appreciate any direction - not to worry if it doesn't exist -
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Have a great day,
>> >>>
>> >>> Litsa 🌼
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> --
>> >>>
>> >>> Litsa Tzelepis
>> >>> Mount St. Joseph Girls' College
>> >>> 133 Maidstone Street, Altona, VIC. 3018 htzelepis at msj.vic.edu.au
>> >>>
>> >>> P:8398 2000
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
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