[Informatics] Adventures in Libre Office

Thu Mar 23 01:18:51 AEDT 2017

Thanks, Roland. I had forgotten about Gantter.
 How are things going where you are?

On Wed, 22 Mar 2017 at 9:16 PM, Roland Gesthuizen <rgesthuizen at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Another one to add to the free list is *Gantter* .. I have used this
> before http://gantter.com .. does a quite decent job, easy for students
> to use with Google Spreadsheet.
>
> Here is an orientation video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILRIlaVMQ9A 7:45
> min
>
> --
>
> *Roland GESTHUIZEN*http://about.me/rgesthuizen
>
> On 22 Mar 2017, at 5:17 pm, Colley, Elizabeth E <
> colley.elizabeth.e at edumail.vic.gov.au> wrote:
>
> They’ve got a bit more h/wk time, and next week I’ll get them to try the
> favourites with a practice scenario.
> So far…
>
>
>
> Good
> No Good
> ZOHO - https://www.zoho.com/projects/gantt-charts.html
> This website has a free trial, however - We can only make *one *project,
> accompanied by *10MB*of accessible space.  (SAM & RIKASH)
> This website is easy to navigate around.
> Tableau
> https://www.tableau.com/products/trial#system-requirements
> There is a free trial of 14 days.
> User has to pay for either the personal version ($999 USD) or the
> professional version (1,999 USD)
> Expensive.
> Smart Sheet -
>
>    - Free trial for 29 days
>
>
>    - Cheap to use compared to other programs
>    - Can export into different formats
>    - Has the ability to print
>    - Can share to different users
>    - Can Save online
>    - Can import data
>    - Can email to others
>    - fairly easy to navigate around the website
>
> Smart Sheet:
>
>    - Have to pay after free trial ends
>    - Must register with email
>    - $14 dollars a month
>
> https://ganttpro.com/
> GanttPro
> ·         Not completely free 0
> ·         Email verification -1
> ·         Colour scheme is pleasing +2
> ·         English or Russian +1
> ·         Clear starter layout +1
> ·         Can input data +1
> ·         Cant export or save unless pro -3
> Total: 2/10
>
> Gantt Project
> Free
> http://www.ganttproject.biz/
>
> <image003.png>
> Offline
> Exportable
> https://dapulse.com
> Requires to Pay after 3 months
> https://www.tomsplanner.com/software/project-planning/pricingsignup.aspx
>
> This allows you to do *ONE PROJECT and it’s stored online! However, thats
> all we need!!! And worst case scenario - We can buy it and do 20 projects
> and its just under $10! --- Do have a look at this website!*
>
> Project Manager
> https://www.projectmanager.com
> Absolutely, positively horrible. The colour scheme was disgusting, and you
> had to insert your card details to continue with the “30 day free trial”
>
> <image004.png>
>
> Like look how gross it is!
>
>
>
> *Liz Colley*
>
> *Year 7 Assistant* *Educational Year Level Leader*
> English and Computing Teacher
>
>
>
> *From:* informatics-bounces at edulists.com.au [
> mailto:informatics-bounces at edulists.com.au
> <informatics-bounces at edulists.com.au>] *On Behalf Of *Mark
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 22 March 2017 4:59 PM
> *To:* Year 12 VCE Informatics Teachers' Mailing List <
> informatics at edulists.com.au>
> *Subject:* Re: [Informatics] Adventures in Libre Office
>
> And... ?
>
> I'd very much like to hear about their findings.
>
> Regards,
> Mark
>
> On 22 March 2017 at 16:50, Colley, Elizabeth E <
> colley.elizabeth.e at edumail.vic.gov.au> wrote:
>
> My students had a fun time creating a google doc, with each pair testing
> out a different ‘free’ Gantt chart software and posting their results and
> recommendations.
>
>
> *Liz Colley*
>
> *Year 7 Assistant* *Educational Year Level Leader*
> English and Computing Teacher
>
>
>
> *From:* informatics-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:
> informatics-bounces at edulists.com.au] *On Behalf Of *Robert Hind
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 22 March 2017 4:17 PM
> *To:* 'Year 12 VCE Informatics Teachers' Mailing List' <
> informatics at edulists.com.au>
>
> *Subject:* Re: [Informatics] Adventures in Libre Office
>
> Attack gerbils indeed!
>
> I would like to point out that
>
> "*Gerbils* and hamsters are classified as exotic rodents and they not
> allowed in *Australia* because they are a threat to the local ecosystem.
> That is, if they were to escape into the wild, they may start breeding and
> threaten native flora and fauna."
> http://www.petpages.com.au/a/lifestyle/why_cant_i_buy_a_gerbil_or_hamster_in_australia
>
> Robert Hind
> Ex Traralgon and Ashwood
> Retired
>
> ------------------------------
>
> *From:* informatics-bounces at edulists.com.au [
> mailto:informatics-bounces at edulists.com.au
> <informatics-bounces at edulists.com.au>] *On Behalf Of *Mark
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 22 March 2017 3:43 PM
> *To:* Year 12 VCE Informatics Teachers' Mailing List
> *Subject:* Re: [Informatics] Adventures in Libre Office
> Hi James
>
> If I needed a guard animal, I'd get a dog. I would not train a gerbil to
> attack intruders.
>
> Similarly, if I need to create Gantt charts, I'd use a dedicated Gantt
> chart tool, and not expect a spreadsheet to do a job for which it is
> completely inappropriate.
>
> - Does an Excel 2016 Gantt do proper dependency arrows? I can't find
> that.*
> - Does Excel handle milestones automatically when a task's duration is set
> to zero?
> - Importantly, if a task is moved or changed, do other tasks automatically
> change to accommodate the adjustment - or do you have to manually drag all
> affected tasks around to reflect the change? The SAC requires chart
> adjustments to be demonstrated, and manual adjustment of all consequential
> task changes is a real buzz-kill.
> - Can you allocate resources to a task? Will it warn that resources are
> double-booked? (Not that this is required for Informatics, but it's a very
> handy feature)
> - Is it *free*?
>
> Far better, dedicated, no-cost Gantt software is easily available.
> Why spend weeks training a gerbil to bark and assault strangers?
>
> And yes, I agree that Google apps have much to commend them, but they also
> lack the features of dedicated tools.
>
> And do Google docs work offline? I remember once sitting in the waiting
> room of a gerbil training academy that had no wifi, and *could not
> produce a Gantt chart online*. It was *very* distressing.
>
> Mark
>
> * It may explain why - before the 2016 Info exam - VCAA exams' Gantt
> questions have *no* dependency arrows or milestone diamonds. I can
> imagine the old exam-setting group at work:
>
> A: We need to depict a Gantt chart in this IPM exam !
> B: Great! Let's show a Gantt chart that lacks *all* of the most vital
> features of a real Gantt chart, like the arrows and diamonds!
> A: Fantastic! Let's do that thing. But wait! Do you think it might confuse
> students who have learned what a real Gantt chart looks like?
> B: Ha Ha Ha. Yes indeed. But if we downloaded and used *real* Gantt chart
> software tool - that would be really - um - free and quick and easy ... But
> you know Microsoft's slogan: *"What the hell. Let's use Excel!"*
> A: But isn't that like training a gerbil to be an attack animal?
> B: Golly. You must be psychic. That analogy won't be raised until March
> 2017.
> A: Jeepers. That's spooky!
>
>
>
> On 22 March 2017 at 14:37, Vella, James <jvella at mackillop.vic.edu.au>
> wrote:
>
> And I’m guessing the latest version of Libre Calc doesn’t allow you to
> make Gantt charts like Excel 2016 does!
>
> If you’re looking for a free productivity suite (with plenty of resources
> to boot), Google might be the better answer.
>
> JV
>
>
>
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> Mark Kelly
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