[Informatics] Adventures in Libre Office

Wed Mar 22 21:11:22 AEDT 2017

Another one to add to the free list is Gantter .. I have used this before http://gantter.com <http://gantter.com/> .. does a quite decent job, easy for students to use with Google Spreadsheet.

Here is an orientation video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILRIlaVMQ9A <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILRIlaVMQ9A> 7:45 min

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> On 22 Mar 2017, at 5:17 pm, Colley, Elizabeth E <colley.elizabeth.e at edumail.vic.gov.au> wrote:
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> They’ve got a bit more h/wk time, and next week I’ll get them to try the favourites with a practice scenario.  
> So far…
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> Good
> No Good
> ZOHO - https://www.zoho.com/projects/gantt-charts.html <https://www.zoho.com/projects/gantt-charts.html>
> This website has a free trial, however - We can only make one project, accompanied by 10MBof accessible space.  (SAM & RIKASH)
> This website is easy to navigate around.
> Tableau
> https://www.tableau.com/products/trial#system-requirements <https://www.tableau.com/products/trial#system-requirements>
> There is a free trial of 14 days.
> User has to pay for either the personal version ($999 USD) or the professional version (1,999 USD)
> Expensive.
> Smart Sheet -
> Free trial for 29 days
> Cheap to use compared to other programs
> Can export into different formats
> Has the ability to print
> Can share to different users
> Can Save online 
> Can import data
> Can email to others
> fairly easy to navigate around the website
> Smart Sheet:
> Have to pay after free trial ends
> Must register with email
> $14 dollars a month
> https://ganttpro.com/ <https://ganttpro.com/> 
> GanttPro
> ·         Not completely free 0
> ·         Email verification -1
> ·         Colour scheme is pleasing +2
> ·         English or Russian +1
> ·         Clear starter layout +1
> ·         Can input data +1
> ·         Cant export or save unless pro -3
> Total: 2/10
> Gantt Project
> Free
> http://www.ganttproject.biz/ <http://www.ganttproject.biz/>
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> Offline
> Exportable
> https://dapulse.com <https://dapulse.com/>
> Requires to Pay after 3 months
> https://www.tomsplanner.com/software/project-planning/pricingsignup.aspx <https://www.tomsplanner.com/software/project-planning/pricingsignup.aspx>
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> This allows you to do ONE PROJECT and it’s stored online! However, thats all we need!!! And worst case scenario - We can buy it and do 20 projects and its just under $10! --- Do have a look at this website!
> Project Manager
> https://www.projectmanager.com <https://www.projectmanager.com/>
> Absolutely, positively horrible. The colour scheme was disgusting, and you had to insert your card details to continue with the “30 day free trial”
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> Like look how gross it is!
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> Liz Colley
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> Year 7 Assistant Educational Year Level Leader             
> English and Computing Teacher
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> From: informatics-bounces at edulists.com.au <mailto:informatics-bounces at edulists.com.au> [mailto:informatics-bounces at edulists.com.au <mailto:informatics-bounces at edulists.com.au>] On Behalf Of Mark
> Sent: Wednesday, 22 March 2017 4:59 PM
> To: Year 12 VCE Informatics Teachers' Mailing List <informatics at edulists.com.au <mailto:informatics at edulists.com.au>>
> Subject: Re: [Informatics] Adventures in Libre Office
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> And... ?  
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> I'd very much like to hear about their findings.
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> Regards,
> Mark
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> On 22 March 2017 at 16:50, Colley, Elizabeth E <colley.elizabeth.e at edumail.vic.gov.au <mailto:colley.elizabeth.e at edumail.vic.gov.au>> wrote:
> My students had a fun time creating a google doc, with each pair testing out a different ‘free’ Gantt chart software and posting their results and recommendations. 
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> Liz Colley
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> Year 7 Assistant Educational Year Level Leader             
> English and Computing Teacher
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> From: informatics-bounces at edulists.com.au <mailto:informatics-bounces at edulists.com.au> [mailto:informatics-bounces at edulists.com.au <mailto:informatics-bounces at edulists.com.au>] On Behalf Of Robert Hind
> Sent: Wednesday, 22 March 2017 4:17 PM
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> Subject: Re: [Informatics] Adventures in Libre Office
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> Attack gerbils indeed!
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> I would like to point out that
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> "Gerbils and hamsters are classified as exotic rodents and they not allowed in Australia because they are a threat to the local ecosystem. That is, if they were to escape into the wild, they may start breeding and threaten native flora and fauna." http://www.petpages.com.au/a/lifestyle/why_cant_i_buy_a_gerbil_or_hamster_in_australia <http://www.petpages.com.au/a/lifestyle/why_cant_i_buy_a_gerbil_or_hamster_in_australia>
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> Robert Hind
> Ex Traralgon and Ashwood
> Retired
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> From: informatics-bounces at edulists.com.au <mailto:informatics-bounces at edulists.com.au> [mailto:informatics-bounces at edulists.com.au <mailto:informatics-bounces at edulists.com.au>] On Behalf Of Mark
> Sent: Wednesday, 22 March 2017 3:43 PM
> To: Year 12 VCE Informatics Teachers' Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Informatics] Adventures in Libre Office
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> Hi James
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> If I needed a guard animal, I'd get a dog. I would not train a gerbil to attack intruders.
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> Similarly, if I need to create Gantt charts, I'd use a dedicated Gantt chart tool, and not expect a spreadsheet to do a job for which it is completely inappropriate.
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> - Does an Excel 2016 Gantt do proper dependency arrows? I can't find that.* 
> - Does Excel handle milestones automatically when a task's duration is set to zero?
> - Importantly, if a task is moved or changed, do other tasks automatically change to accommodate the adjustment - or do you have to manually drag all affected tasks around to reflect the change? The SAC requires chart adjustments to be demonstrated, and manual adjustment of all consequential task changes is a real buzz-kill.
> - Can you allocate resources to a task? Will it warn that resources are double-booked? (Not that this is required for Informatics, but it's a very handy feature)
> - Is it free?
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> Far better, dedicated, no-cost Gantt software is easily available. 
> Why spend weeks training a gerbil to bark and assault strangers?
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> And yes, I agree that Google apps have much to commend them, but they also lack the features of dedicated tools.
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> And do Google docs work offline? I remember once sitting in the waiting room of a gerbil training academy that had no wifi, and could not produce a Gantt chart online. It was very distressing.
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> Mark
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> * It may explain why - before the 2016 Info exam - VCAA exams' Gantt questions have no dependency arrows or milestone diamonds. I can imagine the old exam-setting group at work:
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> A: We need to depict a Gantt chart in this IPM exam !
> B: Great! Let's show a Gantt chart that lacks all of the most vital features of a real Gantt chart, like the arrows and diamonds!
> A: Fantastic! Let's do that thing. But wait! Do you think it might confuse students who have learned what a real Gantt chart looks like?
> B: Ha Ha Ha. Yes indeed. But if we downloaded and used real Gantt chart software tool - that would be really - um - free and quick and easy ... But you know Microsoft's slogan: "What the hell. Let's use Excel!"
> A: But isn't that like training a gerbil to be an attack animal?
> B: Golly. You must be psychic. That analogy won't be raised until March 2017.
> A: Jeepers. That's spooky!
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> On 22 March 2017 at 14:37, Vella, James <jvella at mackillop.vic.edu.au <mailto:jvella at mackillop.vic.edu.au>> wrote:
> And I’m guessing the latest version of Libre Calc doesn’t allow you to make Gantt charts like Excel 2016 does!
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> If you’re looking for a free productivity suite (with plenty of resources to boot), Google might be the better answer.
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> JV
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