[Yr7-10it] file sharing on mobile devices

Paul Chandler paul.chandler at une.edu.au
Mon Feb 20 17:27:19 EST 2012 

Hi Kent,

PyWebDav here:  http://code.google.com/p/pywebdav/   You will need python
installed, and something do decompress a .tar.gz (7zip for win32, I think).
 The page has lots of info about mysql, but you don't need it.  Just the
python environment, and this program - then use command line arguments to
set any user names or passwords (or define none).  As you can tell, it was
written for *nix environments, and I have got it running easily on win32 -
so I presume it would work OK on Mac.

Cheers,

On 20 February 2012 16:06, Kent Beveridge <kbeveridge at stbc.vic.edu.au>wrote:

> To Paul and Kevork...
> your discussion on the server setups you both have tried has my
> curiosity...could either of you shoot me a link so I could look into it for
> myself, or point me in a suitable direction....it sounds interesting given
> the directions our devices are taking us..
> Any particular hardware requirements as a minimum??
>
> Kent.
>
> Kent Beveridge
> ICT Co-ordinator, St.Brigids CSC, HORSHAM,Vic,Aus.
> kbeveridge at stbc.vic.edu.au
>
>
> ________________________________________
> From: yr7-10it-bounces at edulists.com.au [yr7-10it-bounces at edulists.com.au]
> on behalf of Paul Chandler [paul.chandler at une.edu.au]
> Sent: Saturday, 18 February 2012 10:33 PM
> To: Year 7 - 10 Information Technology Teachers' Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Yr7-10it] file sharing on mobile devices
>
> Hi Kevork,
>
> Yep - it certainly would be a solution.  I had set up PyWebDav under win32
> at home so that my son's ipad can be backed up, so am familiar with what
> you describe.  (PyWebDav works really well, in case you're interested)
>
> We are trying to duck-and-weave around issues of institutional approval and
> notoriously restrictive firewalls, so I "live in hope" that there would be
> a suitable device-to-device (P2P) solution.  Not one that I've stumbed into
> yet, though.
>
> Thanks for the info!
>
> Cheers,
>
> On 18 February 2012 21:56, Kevork Krozian <kevork at edulists.com.au> wrote:
>
> > Hi Paul,
> >
> >  I just set up a Webdav server yesterday on a Macbook ( on apache ) and
> > tested it with Webdav Navigator and I was impressed enough to spread the
> > word. We tested it with a few apps that did "see"  the Webdav server (
> > without Webdav Navigator ) as both an upload, download and file creation
> > option on an ipad. It would be interesting to hear from anyone who is
> using
> > an app that does not "see" the Webdav server as an option.
> >
> > As far as your friends at Melbourne Uni wanting to share files on mobile
> > devices, this would do it for them ( common user/password or individual
> > users/passwords that access the same area ) as it runs on port 80 without
> > the need to open any other ports would it not ?
> >
> > Kind Regards
> >
> > Kevork Krozian
> > Edulists Creator Administrator
> > www.edulists.com.au
> > tel: 0419 356 034
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: yr7-10it-bounces at edulists.com.au
> > [mailto:yr7-10it-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Paul Chandler
> > Sent: Monday, 6 February 2012 4:25 PM
> > To: Year 7 - 10 Information Technology Teachers' Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: [Yr7-10it] file sharing on mobile devices
> >
> > Hi Kevork,
> >
> > New job for you (pathways manager)?  My position is still a bit fluid for
> > this year (and beyond), but working on a project supporting 'better
> > teaching' at Melb Uni Education in semester 1.
> >
> > The issue is exactly the one of sandboxed apps - particularly the iWork
> > suite.  Dropbox works find for viewing apps created somewhere else, but
> if
> > you're actually going to work on the file - or create it - on the
> idevice,
> > then that's problematic, unless its an image.  I struck this with my
> son's
> > ipad last year - how do you back up the critter when iTunes is
> > misbehaving?!  We tried all manner of things including dropbox, but they
> > were not bidirectional.  Then I found a simple webdav server, and it runs
> > on the home PC, and backup is easy.  So I'm very familiar with the
> > sandboxing problem/architecture.
> >
> > Which doesn't really help what my colleague here at Melb. wants to do -
> > which is facilitating collaboration amongst pre-service teachers using
> > multi-way file-sharing; and of course it shouldn't matter whether they
> have
> > an idevice or an android or whatever.  Nor can we rely on the university
> > actually having ports open.
> >
> > I came across this app called "webdav navigator" which is cross-platform,
> > webdav or bluetooth - and which seems to fill the requirements.  I was
> > really posting just to check if there's an error in my logic or if I've
> not
> > encountered the "magic app" which 'everyone' is using.
> >
> > Seems that my thinking is on the right track.  Thanks for your input.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> >
> > On 6 February 2012 15:04, Kevork KROZIAN
> > <kkrozian at ringwoodsc.vic.edu.au>wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Paul,
> > >
> > >  It is more to do with the way apps are written and the nature of the
> > > device is it not  ? One of the early concerns with iPads was how do we
> > get
> > > files on and off ?
> > >
> > > Android allows access to a range of storage options
> > >
> http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/data/data-storage.htmlincluding
> > external HDD and network drives. My yahoo mail app on my android
> > > phone allows attachments to be added from the SD card for example as
> well
> > > as external USB HDD.
> > > I am not using iphones or ipads but I know dropbox is the preferred
> > method
> > > of sharing files. However, when collecting from dropbox the file type
> > > downloaded is matched up or checked for compatibility with the apps
> that
> > > will be able to use it and loaded into the app chosen from that
> > selection.
> > > Incidentally, I heard only last week that dropbox is not allowed in
> some
> > > education jurisdictions like WA.  I don't know as to why that is.
> > > Many apps seem to have access only to a "sandboxed" memory space where
> > > only files created by the app is available to that app.
> > > I expect you are looking for something more than a Bluetooth type
> > wireless
> > > connection ??
> > >
> > >
> > > Kind Regards
> > >
> > > Kevork Krozian
> > > IT Pathways Manager
> > > Ringwood Trade Training Facility
> > > Tel: 0419 356 034
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: yr7-10it-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:
> > > yr7-10it-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Paul Chandler
> > > Sent: Monday, 6 February 2012 2:41 PM
> > > To: Year 7 - 10 Information Technology Teachers' Mailing List
> > > Subject: Re: [Yr7-10it] file sharing on mobile devices [Scanned] [Spam
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> > >
> > > Definately.  I like dropbox.  I was hoping to identify something which
> > > would simply require a local LAN, and not require full connectivity to
> > the
> > > internet.  (Working within a university context does not guarantee
> > > open-slather connectivity)
> > >
> > > On 6 February 2012 13:55, Tim Kitchen <tkitchen at strathcona.vic.edu.au
> > > >wrote:
> > >
> > > > Dropbox works well for us
> > > >
> > > > http://www.dropbox.com/
> > > >
> > > > Ta
> > > >
> > > > Tim Kitchen
> > > > Strathcona
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 06/02/2012, at 1:24 PM, Paul Chandler wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi everyone,
> > > > >
> > > > > Has anyone had experience with students transferring files (eg
> > > > > images, as part of a classroom activity) between mobile devices (ie
> > > > > among ipads,
> > > > ipods
> > > > > or android phones)?
> > > > >
> > > > > Initial investigation suggests that a little multi-platform product
> > > > called
> > > > > "WebDav Navigator" might be a way to go, but interested in other's
> > > > thoughts.
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > >
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