[Yr7-10it] file sharing on mobile devices

Mon Feb 20 16:06:26 EST 2012

To Paul and Kevork...
your discussion on the server setups you both have tried has my curiosity...could either of you shoot me a link so I could look into it for myself, or point me in a suitable direction....it sounds interesting given the directions our devices are taking us..
Any particular hardware requirements as a minimum??

Kent.

Kent Beveridge
ICT Co-ordinator, St.Brigids CSC, HORSHAM,Vic,Aus.
kbeveridge at stbc.vic.edu.au

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From: yr7-10it-bounces at edulists.com.au [yr7-10it-bounces at edulists.com.au] on behalf of Paul Chandler [paul.chandler at une.edu.au]
Sent: Saturday, 18 February 2012 10:33 PM
To: Year 7 - 10 Information Technology Teachers' Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Yr7-10it] file sharing on mobile devices

Hi Kevork,

Yep - it certainly would be a solution.  I had set up PyWebDav under win32
at home so that my son's ipad can be backed up, so am familiar with what
you describe.  (PyWebDav works really well, in case you're interested)

We are trying to duck-and-weave around issues of institutional approval and
notoriously restrictive firewalls, so I "live in hope" that there would be
a suitable device-to-device (P2P) solution.  Not one that I've stumbed into
yet, though.

Thanks for the info!

Cheers,

On 18 February 2012 21:56, Kevork Krozian <kevork at edulists.com.au> wrote:

> Hi Paul,
>
>  I just set up a Webdav server yesterday on a Macbook ( on apache ) and
> tested it with Webdav Navigator and I was impressed enough to spread the
> word. We tested it with a few apps that did "see"  the Webdav server (
> without Webdav Navigator ) as both an upload, download and file creation
> option on an ipad. It would be interesting to hear from anyone who is using
> an app that does not "see" the Webdav server as an option.
>
> As far as your friends at Melbourne Uni wanting to share files on mobile
> devices, this would do it for them ( common user/password or individual
> users/passwords that access the same area ) as it runs on port 80 without
> the need to open any other ports would it not ?
>
> Kind Regards
>
> Kevork Krozian
> Edulists Creator Administrator
> www.edulists.com.au
> tel: 0419 356 034
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: yr7-10it-bounces at edulists.com.au
> [mailto:yr7-10it-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Paul Chandler
> Sent: Monday, 6 February 2012 4:25 PM
> To: Year 7 - 10 Information Technology Teachers' Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Yr7-10it] file sharing on mobile devices
>
> Hi Kevork,
>
> New job for you (pathways manager)?  My position is still a bit fluid for
> this year (and beyond), but working on a project supporting 'better
> teaching' at Melb Uni Education in semester 1.
>
> The issue is exactly the one of sandboxed apps - particularly the iWork
> suite.  Dropbox works find for viewing apps created somewhere else, but if
> you're actually going to work on the file - or create it - on the idevice,
> then that's problematic, unless its an image.  I struck this with my son's
> ipad last year - how do you back up the critter when iTunes is
> misbehaving?!  We tried all manner of things including dropbox, but they
> were not bidirectional.  Then I found a simple webdav server, and it runs
> on the home PC, and backup is easy.  So I'm very familiar with the
> sandboxing problem/architecture.
>
> Which doesn't really help what my colleague here at Melb. wants to do -
> which is facilitating collaboration amongst pre-service teachers using
> multi-way file-sharing; and of course it shouldn't matter whether they have
> an idevice or an android or whatever.  Nor can we rely on the university
> actually having ports open.
>
> I came across this app called "webdav navigator" which is cross-platform,
> webdav or bluetooth - and which seems to fill the requirements.  I was
> really posting just to check if there's an error in my logic or if I've not
> encountered the "magic app" which 'everyone' is using.
>
> Seems that my thinking is on the right track.  Thanks for your input.
>
> Cheers,
>
>
> On 6 February 2012 15:04, Kevork KROZIAN
> <kkrozian at ringwoodsc.vic.edu.au>wrote:
>
> > Hi Paul,
> >
> >  It is more to do with the way apps are written and the nature of the
> > device is it not  ? One of the early concerns with iPads was how do we
> get
> > files on and off ?
> >
> > Android allows access to a range of storage options
> > http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/data/data-storage.htmlincluding
> external HDD and network drives. My yahoo mail app on my android
> > phone allows attachments to be added from the SD card for example as well
> > as external USB HDD.
> > I am not using iphones or ipads but I know dropbox is the preferred
> method
> > of sharing files. However, when collecting from dropbox the file type
> > downloaded is matched up or checked for compatibility with the apps that
> > will be able to use it and loaded into the app chosen from that
> selection.
> > Incidentally, I heard only last week that dropbox is not allowed in some
> > education jurisdictions like WA.  I don't know as to why that is.
> > Many apps seem to have access only to a "sandboxed" memory space where
> > only files created by the app is available to that app.
> > I expect you are looking for something more than a Bluetooth type
> wireless
> > connection ??
> >
> >
> > Kind Regards
> >
> > Kevork Krozian
> > IT Pathways Manager
> > Ringwood Trade Training Facility
> > Tel: 0419 356 034
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: yr7-10it-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:
> > yr7-10it-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Paul Chandler
> > Sent: Monday, 6 February 2012 2:41 PM
> > To: Year 7 - 10 Information Technology Teachers' Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: [Yr7-10it] file sharing on mobile devices [Scanned] [Spam
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> > Definately.  I like dropbox.  I was hoping to identify something which
> > would simply require a local LAN, and not require full connectivity to
> the
> > internet.  (Working within a university context does not guarantee
> > open-slather connectivity)
> >
> > On 6 February 2012 13:55, Tim Kitchen <tkitchen at strathcona.vic.edu.au
> > >wrote:
> >
> > > Dropbox works well for us
> > >
> > > http://www.dropbox.com/
> > >
> > > Ta
> > >
> > > Tim Kitchen
> > > Strathcona
> > >
> > >
> > > On 06/02/2012, at 1:24 PM, Paul Chandler wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi everyone,
> > > >
> > > > Has anyone had experience with students transferring files (eg
> > > > images, as part of a classroom activity) between mobile devices (ie
> > > > among ipads,
> > > ipods
> > > > or android phones)?
> > > >
> > > > Initial investigation suggests that a little multi-platform product
> > > called
> > > > "WebDav Navigator" might be a way to go, but interested in other's
> > > thoughts.
> > > >
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