[Yr7-10it] RE: regional PD
Costello, Rob R
Costello.Rob.R at edumail.vic.gov.au
Tue Jan 8 17:48:42 EST 2008
Yes of course I'm not opposed to people trying -
Just flagging some likely issues with the technology / experience
you've "heard it before" - maybe because people are simply reporting on
what they've observed before?
online training is not often a great solution for *synchronous groups* -
(though I'm happy to be corrected if people can point some out) - but
all power to the interested parties if they can make it work - someone
will find a good solution somewhere; just harder than it seems I think
on reflection what I'm saying boils down to this - might be better to
aim ie make the online bit the main game - aim squarely at providing
regional / distance / online solutions -
ie that's better than a system which ties to "listens in" or participate
with a training event which is predominately face to face - ie I don't
know the hybrid works that well yet - except for lectures etc
eg a model I've seen is the "Breeze" style live broadcast with chat /
audio feedback - maybe that could be looked at for online approaches
Cheers
Rob
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> Rob I have been told all of this before, That's main issue is that
the
> teachers in remote arrears Don't get to many if any PD sessions
because it
> is set up for the teachers in the city!!!! That's why the remote
> teachers
> are trying to be proactive and come up with something that could just
> work.
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> Sent: Friday, 28 December 2007 7:24 PM
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> didn't mean to send that last email just yet
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>
> my other thought was that it could be good for a presentation /
lecture
> style - discussion of ideas etc
>
> (ie less need for the "trainer" to interact with participants screens
etc)
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>
>
> -- virtual environments that are fully immersive - like training in
Second
> Life, where it doesn't matter where you are (haven't tried training
there
> though)
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>
>
> Not meaning to pour cold water - just looking at the possible / likely
> issues with this sort of delivery
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>
>
> Rob
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> I live in Bendigo and I'm not sure what I think about this
>
>
>
> Why?
>
>
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> I don't teach at Bendigo Senior Secondary, but it has had a strong
> tradition
> of ICT PD (navconn, ICT festivals etc) but even there the last ICT
> festival
> - held for the whole town and the region - was a bit of a fizzer -
they
> had
> to cancel most of the sessions
>
>
>
> I couldn't help thinking the teacher interest in this sort of approach
has
> gone through a bit of a dip - maybe akin to the dip in student
enrolments
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>
>
> Not sure why - but that's my first issue - we might be able to
broadcast
> (how well?) but having great content that people really want is
another
> issue
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>
>
> (even if its working ok, the remote thing will lessen the quality, so
it
> will needs to be really good content to work remotely)
>
>
>
> But personally, while I'd attend this sort of thing in person, I don't
> know
> that I'd sign up for it, if it was remote -
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>
>
> My reservations :
>
>
>
> (1) skill development is pretty easy to get anywhere on the internet I
> reckon (IT content is not that compelling - a little time reading can
go
> as
> far)
>
>
>
> (2) the nature of these training sessions is likely to not translate
> overally well to remote connection (can we see each other? and/or
each
> other's screens?
>
>
>
> (I like the technology - I did a video conference between parts of my
> family
> on Christmas day - but I'm not sure it makes for a good session like
> this).
>
>
>
> Have been trained via phone and remote desktop and that worked well -
and
> I
> sometimes solve problems for people like that - but is a one to one
thing;
> not sure how that would work for a group
>
>
>
> Also used some commercial stuff - WebEx - even at best its doesn't
seem
> like
> a great training tool for software training
>
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>
> Potential
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> Rob
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