[Yr7-10it] IT JOBS 2008

Mon Oct 15 10:50:44 EST 2007

The reasoning is quite simple:
It was a gov't initiative to implement VELS (like the CSF) wasnt it?  The difference here, as we IT teachers are now finding, is that VELS integrates IT with other subjects and apparently all teachers are assumed to be IT trained as VELS is 'inter disciplinary' in its approach. Hence IT teachers become dinosaurs as our skills are suddenly downgraded except for specialist subject areas. Hence, schools take the decision to integrate IT, thereby reducing the number of classes of straight IT and therefore making many IT staff redundant.
This is the main reason I, personally, am upgrading my MATHS quals to be able to offer VCE maths as a teaching stream as I feel that my IT subjects will disappear soon. The downside is that the jobs requiring computer skills higher than those of a monkey will go interstate or be outsourced to overseas specialists.
This is my thoughts..
feel free to comment or disagree as its just an opinion.
KB.

Kent Beveridge,
I.T. co-ordinator
St. Brigids Catholic Sec. College
Horsham
email.. kbeveridge at stbc.vic.edu.au

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From: yr7-10it-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of victor rajewski
Sent: Mon 10/15/2007 10:18 AM
To: Year 7 - 10 Information Technology Teachers' Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Yr7-10it] IT JOBS 2008

I don't quite understand; What does Howard have to do with VELS? I
don't follow your reasoning (perhaps your rage has impaired your
argumentative skills?)

vik

On 10/15/07, Kent Beveridge <kbeveridge at stbc.vic.edu.au> wrote:
> Heres a thought, lots of available teachers to 'not so many' jobs for next year. The govt will LOVE that. Think of all the VACANCIES and CREATED JOBS that Mr. Howard now has CREATED!
> Guess who I'm NOT voting for!
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> So much for the skills shortage. With one fowl swoop of VELS he instantly created an oversupply of teachers(in the IT area!!!! ).
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> Isnt that what hes been spruking?   'Look how many jobs I've created with my new IR system(and other subtle measures).
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> hmmm
> Makes you wonder why, doesnt it?!!
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> KB.
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> Kent Beveridge,
> I.T. co-ordinator
> St. Brigids Catholic Sec. College
> Horsham
> email.. kbeveridge at stbc.vic.edu.au
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> |<3|\|7  b3\/3r1D93 ?  ;-)
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> From: yr7-10it-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of Alexakos, Zach Z
> Sent: Sun 10/14/2007 7:27 PM
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> Subject: RE: [Yr7-10it] Year 7-10 IT structures
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> Sounds like the basket weavers have well and truly taken over.
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> Zach Alexakos
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> From: yr7-10it-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:yr7-10it-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Jim Bunn
> Sent: Sunday, 14 October 2007 5:13 PM
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> Hello all,
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> As Rachelle has already indicated, there is no compulsory ICT at Hampton Park Secondary College (new from this year) and the administration (having wanted this for years) has used the move from the CSF to VELS as a virtual mandate for the dissolution of ICT classes at years 7 and 8. Fully integrating ICT at years 7 and 8 was done under the guise of it being a requirement under VELS. I argued many of the very valid points made by those replying to this thread, and it's made no difference whatsoever.
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> At the end of last year I thought that the one good outcome of this disastrous move was that at least most of the teachers previously unable to get their non-ICT classes into a computer lab would now be possible. Alas, no. One of our four computer labs (for 1300 students!) has been dismantled and the computers dispersed elsewhere, like into a Pod, or the new Learning Centre or just not re-leased. Another is scheduled to go as well. My cynical nature says that it all comes down to saving $.
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> And guess what. It's driving good ICT teachers away from here. One has just resigned, another is leaving at the end of the year, another is trying to leave, and yours truly is counting the days until I'm out of here as well. What a sad state of affairs. Grumble, grumble.
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> Jim Bunn
> CCNA CCAI ITE1
> Technology Coordinator
> Hampton Park Secondary College
> Victoria  Australia
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> 8795 9400
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> bunn.jim.c at edumail.vic.gov.au
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> From: yr7-10it-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:yr7-10it-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Colin SUTTON
> Sent: Thursday, 11 October 2007 8:59 PM
> To: yr7-10it at edulists.com.au
> Subject: [Yr7-10it] Year 7-10 IT structures
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> Hi all
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> My school, Montmorency SC, has NO compulsory ICT!
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> A student can go through 6 years of schooling here and do NO formal IT.
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> No other school I have ever taught in (2 in Vic, 3 in QLD and 4 in the UK) have ever had this!
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> It seems unbelievable that in the Information Age students are not formally taught ANY ICT.
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> They have to learn another language, do wood, metal, cooking and sewing - useful and even essential - but the ONE thing none of them can avoid is ICT!
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> Sure, many can play games and surf to sites, but they are not formally taught a wide range of other useful or essentail skills.
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> Schools I have taught in elsewhere had at least one semester of ICT at Year 7 (Yr 8 in QLD as secondary starts in Yr8).
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> Most had an elective system that required them to do at least ONE or more units at 8/9 or even again in Yr 10.
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> Comments anyone?
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> Regards
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