[Yr11 Information Technology] Developing SAC's

Howard, David dhoward at stmichaels.vic.edu.au
Tue Feb 15 07:58:01 EST 2011


Andrew I am happy to pass one onto you once I have written one myself, it is just the persistent asking from you that I think is getting people offside. I am in the process of writing 3 SACs for all 3 study designs from SCRATCH!! Shock Horror! That's what a new study design brings.

I don't think people have SACs to share around yet either, most likely people are drafting them and don't want them to get out before they hand them out themselves...

Good luck Andrew.

Regards

David

-----Original Message-----
From: yr11it-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:yr11it-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Townsley, Andrew A
Sent: Monday, 14 February 2011 6:14 PM
To: Year 11 Information Technology Teachers' Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Yr11 Information Technology] Developing SAC's


I havent done unit 1/2 SACs in a few years and i really dont understand the reluctance of people to simply pass one on.
I dont intend to copy one but simply edit it.

IT really is quite time consuming writing one from scratch and having worked in the IT industry we are always told  never write things from scratch.

A.Townsley
townsley.andrew.a at edumail.vic.gov.au
Fountain Gate SC



-----Original Message-----
From: yr11it-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of Margaret Lawson
Sent: Mon 14/02/2011 1:17 PM
To: Year 11 Information Technology Teachers' Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Yr11 Information Technology] Developing SAC's
 
Why don't you have a go at writing one Andrew and we can give you feedback via the list

:D

Margaret

On 14/02/2011 10:10 AM, Townsley, Andrew A wrote:
> Maybe somepost a SAC from last year.
> Like a picture says a thousand words.
>
> A.Townsley
> townsley.andrew.a at edumail.vic.gov.au
> Fountain Gate SC
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: yr11it-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of Zach Alexakos
> Sent: Mon 14/02/2011 9:33 AM
> To: Year 11 Information Technology Teachers' Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Yr11 Information Technology] Developing SAC's
>
>
> No- You'll need an ASIO clearance first.
>
> Zach Alexakos
>
>
>
>
> On 13/02/11 10:08 PM, "Townsley, Andrew A"<townsley.andrew.a at edumail.vic.gov.au>  wrote:
>
>
>
> 	Hi,
> 	
> 	Is anyone willing to post a SAC?
> 	
> 	A.Townsley
> 	townsley.andrew.a at edumail.vic.gov.au
> 	Fountain Gate SC
> 	
> 	
> 	
> 	-----Original Message-----
> 	From: yr11it-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of Margaret Lawson
> 	Sent: Fri 11/02/2011 9:25 PM
> 	To: Year 11 Information Technology Teachers' Mailing List
> 	Subject: Re: [Yr11 Information Technology] Developing SAC's
> 	
> 	I would think that at Year 11, you would want to develop a SAC that
> 	would a) assess their understanding of the key knowledge and skills and
> 	b) appeal to their interests. After all, we want these kids to enroll in
> 	our Year 12 subjects come July.
> 	
> 	Over the years I have used students co-curricular interests to direct me
> 	as to what type of case study might be appropriate for their interest.
> 	And of course it is important to have FUN with the Year 11 curriculum.
> 	At Year 12 you don't have as much flexibility compared with Year 11.
> 	
> 	The example in the study design  is for Enrollment trends at a school.
> 	This might be interesting to some, but other case studies might be more
> 	appealing to the kids. So you might need to do a little thinking outside
> 	the box! Perhaps we could use the list to brainstorm?
> 	
> 	:)
> 	
> 	Margaret
> 	
> 	Currently on leave from St. Michael's Grammar School
> 	Mailing list emails go to home address
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> 	On 11/02/2011 9:01 PM, Dinh Tran wrote:
> 	>
> 	>  Hi Mark,
> 	>
> 	>  I do not agree with you or Natalie about the possibility of students
> 	>  having any real advantages because firstly the examples in the Study
> 	>  Design are INCOMPLETE and only a sample, not the full SAC. It has
> 	>  great potentials to be developed into a real SAC, using different data
> 	>  sets and even different scenarios so I believe writing SAC's based on
> 	>  the study design should be a good thing because at least it's on the
> 	>  right track.
> 	>
> 	>  If a student goes through the trouble of reading and comprehending the
> 	>  study design and masters the skills that is required in the SAC's,
> 	>  then they deserve to do well. I have never heard of any student
> 	>  capable of achieving that standard.
> 	>
> 	>  Regards,
> 	>
> 	>  Dinh Tran
> 	>
> 	>  *From:*yr11it-bounces at edulists.com.au
> 	>  [mailto:yr11it-bounces at edulists.com.au] *On Behalf Of *Mark KELLY
> 	>  *Sent:* Friday, 11 February 2011 8:01 PM
> 	>  *To:* Year 11 Information Technology Teachers' Mailing List
> 	>  *Subject:* Re: [Yr11 Information Technology] Developing SAC's
> 	>
> 	>  No Natalie, please come back from under the basalt.  All contributions
> 	>  are valued here.
> 	>
> 	>  You do have a good point when it comes to kids getting real SACs and
> 	>  getting an unfair advantage, which is why the ITA list is careful
> 	>  about teachers uploading SACs to the public.  You never know where
> 	>  they might end up.
> 	>
> 	>  Keep on posting!
> 	>
> 	>  Regards
> 	>  Mark
> 	>
> 	>
> 	>  On 11 February 2011 19:38, Natalie H<natinga71 at yahoo.com
> 	>  <mailto:natinga71 at yahoo.com>  <mailto:natinga71 at yahoo.com%3E>  >  wrote:
> 	>
> 	>      That's a bloody good point!! *hides back under her rock*
> 	>
> 	>      :-P
> 	>
> 	>      ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 	>
> 	>      Natalie Heath
> 	>
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> 	>
> 	>      *From:*Mark KELLY<kel at mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au
> 	>      <mailto:kel at mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au>  <mailto:kel at mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au%3E>  >
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> 	>
> 	>      *To:* Year 11 Information Technology Teachers' Mailing List
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> 	>      *Sent:*Fri, February 11, 2011 6:52:40 PM
> 	>
> 	>
> 	>      *Subject:* Re: [Yr11 Information Technology] Developing SAC's
> 	>
> 	>
> 	>      Hi Natalie.  If a year 11 of mine went to the trouble of reading
> 	>      the study design and independently worked on a possible solution
> 	>      before a SAC was even given, I reckon they'd *deserve* bonus
> 	>      points, but such a rare beast probably wouldn't be the type who
> 	>      needed bonus points! They would already be A+ material.
> 	>
> 	>      :-)
> 	>
> 	>      Regards
> 	>      Mark
> 	>
> 	>      On 11 February 2011 17:19, Natalie H<natinga71 at yahoo.com
> 	>      <mailto:natinga71 at yahoo.com>  <mailto:natinga71 at yahoo.com%3E>  >  wrote:
> 	>
> 	>      Hi,
> 	>
> 	>      I'd be reluctant to base an assessment task on something that's in
> 	>      a public document. I actively encourage all senior students to
> 	>      read the study design... I'm not convinced year 11s would go to
> 	>      the trouble, but you never know. I know these examples are
> 	>      starting points, but I wouldn't want some students having even a
> 	>      perceived advantage... I don't think it's worth the risk.
> 	>
> 	>      ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 	>
> 	>      Natalie Heath
> 	>
> 	>      Parade College
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> 	>
> 	>      *From:*Dinh Tran<dinhtran at iinet.net.au
> 	>      <mailto:dinhtran at iinet.net.au>  <mailto:dinhtran at iinet.net.au%3E>  >
> 	>      *To:* Year 11 Information Technology Teachers' Mailing List
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> 	>      *Sent:* Fri, February 11, 2011 2:58:46 PM
> 	>      *Subject:* Re: [Yr11 Information Technology] Developing SAC's
> 	>
> 	>      Hi,
> 	>
> 	>      Can anyone be kind enough to share some sample SAC's please?
> 	>      Nelson Cengage have not yet set up the teacher's resources login
> 	>      for me so i am a bit stuck on ideas.
> 	>
> 	>      Are we allowed to use the detailed example of the
> 	>      learning activities on page 55-56 of the Study Design and create a
> 	>      SAC out of it?
> 	>
> 	>      I would like to personally thank you for your support as i am a
> 	>      recent graduate teacher.
> 	>
> 	>      Kind Regards,
> 	>      Dinh Tran
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