[Yr11 Information Technology] Developing SAC's

Sun Feb 13 15:32:43 EST 2011

Margaret is right on the ball. Good senior educators aspire to be fun
merchants who inspire to , anything less approaches the dull knowledge
transfer associated with mindless lecturing.

Regards Roland

PS: Like Kevork I have changed schools too, After many years at
Westall Secondary College, I am now working at Keysborough Secondary
College. After a decade of service from 2000 to 2010, I have also
retired from the VITTA Committee of Management and have been invited
to join the ICTEV State council and local scout group. I am also going
to cut my hair short, loose some weight and learn to ride a vespa.

On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 1:43 PM, Margaret Lawson
<margaret.lawson at konstantkaos.net> wrote:
> The point I was trying to make Dinh, is that the Year 11 curriculum gives us
> the flexibility to make the course more relevant to our students. I would
> think that every teachers goal would be to make the curriculum engaging or
> fun for their students. Perhaps I used the word fun too much?
>
> The request for brainstorming was a reflection on the fact that the example
> of Unit 1 Outcome 1 in the study design might not appeal to students, it
> wasn't a criticism on what you are doing with your students. What is
> engaging for your students might not be engaging for my students.
>
> Regards
>
> Margaret
>
>
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> On 12/02/2011 7:17 AM, Dinh Tran wrote:
>
> Hi Margaret,
>
>
>
> Would you like to share some ideas how to make it “fun” for students?
>
>
>
> Students in my class have fun by working on tutorials and having discussions
> on topics of interests.
>
> I would like students to take the SAC seriously as if they are in year 12.
> They are also assessed similarly to year 12 standards.
>
>
>
> Every subject in year 12 is stressful and challenging for the students so if
> teachers give them a taste of what’s to come (during year 11), they will
> likely choose the right subjects based on their strengths and interests.
> Perhaps not all teachers would agree with me on this point but when I look
> into the eyes of my students, that’s what I see.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Dinh Tran
>
> Loyola College
>
>
>
> P.S. If anyone wishes to share resources with me directly, you can contact
> me securely at trand at loyola.vic.edu.au
>
>
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> From: yr11it-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:yr11it-bounces at edulists.com.au]
> On Behalf Of Margaret Lawson
> Sent: Friday, 11 February 2011 9:26 PM
> To: Year 11 Information Technology Teachers' Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Yr11 Information Technology] Developing SAC's
>
>
>
> I would think that at Year 11, you would want to develop a SAC that would a)
> assess their understanding of the key knowledge and skills and b) appeal to
> their interests. After all, we want these kids to enroll in our Year 12
> subjects come July.
>
> Over the years I have used students co-curricular interests to direct me as
> to what type of case study might be appropriate for their interest. And of
> course it is important to have FUN with the Year 11 curriculum. At Year 12
> you don't have as much flexibility compared with Year 11.
>
> The example in the study design  is for Enrollment trends at a school. This
> might be interesting to some, but other case studies might be more appealing
> to the kids. So you might need to do a little thinking outside the box!
> Perhaps we could use the list to brainstorm?
>
> :)
>
> Margaret
>
> Currently on leave from St. Michael's Grammar School
> Mailing list emails go to home address
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> On 11/02/2011 9:01 PM, Dinh Tran wrote:
>
> Hi Mark,
>
>
>
> I do not agree with you or Natalie about the possibility of students having
> any real advantages because firstly the examples in the Study Design are
> INCOMPLETE and only a sample, not the full SAC. It has great potentials to
> be developed into a real SAC, using different data sets and even different
> scenarios so I believe writing SAC’s based on the study design should be a
> good thing because at least it’s on the right track.
>
>
>
> If a student goes through the trouble of reading and comprehending the study
> design and masters the skills that is required in the SAC’s, then they
> deserve to do well. I have never heard of any student capable of achieving
> that standard.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Dinh Tran
>
>
>
>
>
> From: yr11it-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:yr11it-bounces at edulists.com.au]
> On Behalf Of Mark KELLY
> Sent: Friday, 11 February 2011 8:01 PM
> To: Year 11 Information Technology Teachers' Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Yr11 Information Technology] Developing SAC's
>
>
>
> No Natalie, please come back from under the basalt.  All contributions are
> valued here.
>
> You do have a good point when it comes to kids getting real SACs and getting
> an unfair advantage, which is why the ITA list is careful about teachers
> uploading SACs to the public.  You never know where they might end up.
>
> Keep on posting!
>
> Regards
> Mark
>
>
> On 11 February 2011 19:38, Natalie H <natinga71 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> That's a bloody good point!! *hides back under her rock*
>
> :-P
>
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> Natalie Heath
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> From: Mark KELLY <kel at mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au>
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> To: Year 11 Information Technology Teachers' Mailing List
> <yr11it at edulists.com.au>
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> Sent: Fri, February 11, 2011 6:52:40 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [Yr11 Information Technology] Developing SAC's
>
> Hi Natalie.  If a year 11 of mine went to the trouble of reading the study
> design and independently worked on a possible solution before a SAC was even
> given, I reckon they'd deserve bonus points, but such a rare beast probably
> wouldn't be the type who needed bonus points! They would already be A+
> material.
>
> :-)
>
> Regards
> Mark
>
> On 11 February 2011 17:19, Natalie H <natinga71 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> I'd be reluctant to base an assessment task on something that's in a public
> document. I actively encourage all senior students to read the study
> design... I'm not convinced year 11s would go to the trouble, but you never
> know. I know these examples are starting points, but I wouldn't want some
> students having even a perceived advantage... I don't think it's worth the
> risk.
>
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> Natalie Heath
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> Parade College
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> From: Dinh Tran <dinhtran at iinet.net.au>
> To: Year 11 Information Technology Teachers' Mailing List
> <yr11it at edulists.com.au>
> Sent: Fri, February 11, 2011 2:58:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [Yr11 Information Technology] Developing SAC's
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
> Can anyone be kind enough to share some sample SAC's please?
> Nelson Cengage have not yet set up the teacher's resources login for me so i
> am a bit stuck on ideas.
>
> Are we allowed to use the detailed example of the learning activities on
> page 55-56 of the Study Design and create a SAC out of it?
>
> I would like to personally thank you for your support as i am a recent
> graduate teacher.
>
> Kind Regards,
> Dinh Tran
>
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