[vet-it] Video conference and VET Resources

[Nash, Peter N]

Reinier,
 I handle the looooong  course streams by breaking down the evidence
requirements for some of the units - many overlap with one anther. It is
a matter of then working out the sequence you need to teach so you don't
repeat areas of competency. I find doing it this way saves the students
time and effort.

In respect to the cert II in year 9 and 10 electives - I have
incorporated the many of the competencies required for the new training
package into my IT networking and to a lesser extent IT Applications -
remembering I am concentrating on the Network Stream with the Cert III.
I the have the required Evidence to provide to my RTO (Kangan TAFE) for
satisfy a number of the prerequisite units. Once again it is a matter of
understanding the requirements of the Training Package and provides
suitable activities for students to demonstrate knowledge and
competency. My Year 10 IT classes run much the same as my VET classes -
giving students the opportunity to experience VET prior to actually
commencing it.

The hour requirements are their as a guide to structure learning of the
units (some else tell me if I am wrong), you may find some students will
complete them in a shorter amount of time, others you RPL etc.

I was speaking to my RTO (Kangan) all students studying the old training
package ICA99 will have units recognised if they continue their studies.
I have looking at the two training packages and will be assessing my
ICA99 students with the similar units in the ICA05 package (competencies
virtually identical)

Hope this helps

Peter



-----Original Message-----
From: vet-it-bounces at edulists.com.au
[mailto:vet-it-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Reinier Bouman
Sent: Thursday, 8 February 2007 12:49 PM
To: Vet Information Technology Teach
Subject: Re: [vet-it] Video conference and VET Resources

Hi,

Reinier Bouman at Cobden Technical School here,

thankyou very much Peter, you're a champ.
I'm still finishing off the old course with year12's this year.
had a hiccup with new course book 2 arriving, but we'll get around that.

how does your school handle the loooong course stream requirements for
completion of cert III?
do you let students know that they need to start planning for vet it and
choose cert 2 in year 9?
how else do you jam the hour requirements in?

i really would like to offer VET IT here again, but am struggling
greatly to fit in the hours for a cert 2,
let alone the cert 3 course.
and , yeah, the students are hangin' out for the completed 3 cert. they
don't think it's all the cool to have a partially completed
course at the end of secondary school, besides which, who's going to
have them complete the cert 3, i understand TAFE's don't even look at
cert 3's anymore.


your feedback greatly appreciated, and , thanks again for your posting.

=3D=3D At 2007-02-07, 22:29:12 you wrote: =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

>  
>
>Hi, everyone
>
> 
>
>I'm Peter Nash and have been working in the VET IT area (Network Stream
>or Network Administration) for the past 6 years at Galvin Park SC
>(Werribee) with Kangan TAFE as my RTO. I conduct a VET IT class with a
>own stand alone network (simulated work environment) containing 4
>servers, 8 PCs, 1 laser printer and currently 3 operating systems
>(Server 2003, LINUX, and the old NT). My students come from 3 secondary
>colleges from 3 colleges in the Wyndham (Werribee) area. I'm in a
>fortunate position to RPL (Recognition of Prior Learning) some of the
>prerequisite units for the Cert III as I have developed pathway
elective
>subjects in year 10 - IT Networking and IT Applications therefore I can
>consider offering the full Certificate III for my students if they
>desire to do this. 
>
> 
>
>I have developed and continuing to develop resources to supplement the
>usual text books available to you through Tertiary Press etc, and I use
>the Allan Barnes Workbooks ( AIET, Telephone: (03) 9387-2051, fax: (03)
>9387-3476, email: aiet at bigpond.net.au <mailto:aiet at bigpond.net.au>  )
to
>supplement the evidence gathering the students must do to demonstrate
>competencies in the various units they undertake. You RTOs are a source
>of background information for you as well.
>
> 
>
>Most recently I have join the VITTA committee and planning is underway
>to develop a VET resource disk similar to the VCE resource disk, with
is
>happening VITTA will be looking for teachers to provide information
they
>may feel is important to deliver VET IT. Further to this a VET IT
>section will appear in subsequent VITTA publications.
>
> 
>
>See the attachment for an outline of the new ICA05 course. It is broken
>down in line with the VCAA study guide ( I have included links to the
>previous training package (ICA99) and prerequisite units). Further
>hyperlinks go directly to the National Training and Information Service
>(NTIS) and VCAA. The code links go to my secure Wikispaces site that
>students can access to see what they need to provide as evidence to the
>relevant units of competency. Unfortunately at this stage it is only
>available to my students but it can be demonstrated to teachers through
>PD sessions or by coming to Galvin Park to see me personally.
>
> 
>
>Some of my resources:
>
> 
>
> Hardcopy resources I use.
>
> 
>
>Tertiary Press Books - I have the FULL set of texts covering the
>Certificate II and the Cert III
>
> 
>
>Allan Barnes (AIET) workbooks 1 & 2 [new Package ICA05], has books for
>the old package ICA99. He has great teacher resources as well. I
believe
>after talking to him that a third workbook may be available later this
>year for those who complete the VCAA requirements in Year 11 and wish
to
>complete the full cert III in year 12.
>
> 
>
> 
>
>Here are some websites to get you going!
>
> 
>
>
>Links to site with information regarding Occupational Health and Safety
>(these units should be the first units you teach each year)
>
>
> 
>
>http://www.worksafe.gov.au <http://www.worksafe.gov.au/> 
>
> 
>
>http://www.workcover.vic.gov.au <http://www.workcover.vic.gov.au/> 
>
> 
>
>http://www.osha.gov <http://www.osha.gov/> 
>
> 
>
>http://www.moreton.qld.edu.au/vagng/ohs00.htm
>
> 
>
>http://www.nohsc.gov.au/work/regulatory/legalobligations_index.htm
>
> 
>
>http://www.ohsu.edu/croet/links.html
>
> 
>
>http://www.lib.rmit.edu.au/pathfinders/ochealth.html#Internet resources
><http://www.lib.rmit.edu.au/pathfinders/ochealth.html#Internet
>resources> 
>
> 
>
>http://www.vianet.net.au/~acted/cippark.htm
>
> 
>
>http://www.basford.com.au <http://www.worksafe.gov.au/> 
>
> 
>
>Copyright Act :     www.copyrightaware.gov.au
><http://www.copyrightaware.gov.au/> 
>
> 
>
>Definitions: www.webopedia.com.au <http://www.webopedia.com.au/> 
>
> 
>
>Basic Systems Administration and Disaster Recovery
>
>Disaster recovery planning: Disaster Recovery World (
>www.disasterrecoveryworld.com <http://www.disasterrecoveryworld.com/> )
>
>Introduction to security risk analysis (www.security-risk-analysis.com
><http://www.security-risk-analysis.com/> )
>
>PC Guide's disaster recovery (www.pcguide.com/care/bu/recov.htm)
>
>Bitpipe IT research (
>www.bitpipe.com/data/web/bp/hottopics/disrec/disrec.jsp)
>
>Whitepapers from ITPapers.com
(www.itpapers.com/cgi/SubcatIT.pl?scid=3D40)
>
>Tek Tips discussion forum (
>www.tek-tips.com/gthreadminder.cfm/lev2/7/lev3/50/pid/528)
>
>Recovery tools: Winternals recovery tools for Windows (
>www.winternals.com <http://www.winternals.com/> )
>
>Ontrack Easy Recovery (www.ontrack.com/easyrecoveryprofessional)
>
>Norton System Works, Mac and PC (www.symantec.com/sabu/sysworks/basic)
>
>System Administrators Guild of Australia (SAGE.au). A national
>organisation that provides resources for those who manage computers for
>others (www.sage-au.org.au <http://www.sage-au.org.au/> )
>
> 
>
>Online computer security training: Online Security
><http://www.itrainonline.org/itrainonline/english/security.shtml> 
>This section points to materials which will be of use to both those new
>to online security and privacy issues, as well to more advanced users.
>Topics covered include viruses, network and server security,
encryption,
>and Internet security in the workplace.
>
> 
>
> 
>
>These are some links to get you going but remember I am going to be
>involved with producing further resource material through VITTA and
>their newsletter but be aware that some PD sessions will occur some
time
>this year. In the mean time I am willing to provide you with some
>mentoring through this list. The video conferencing is a great idea but
>Podcasting and blogging with relevant RSS feeds is another great way of
>communication these days (another interest of mine) - something to
>consider?
>
> 
>
>Anyway guys, you now know a little about me and I will try and upload
>some other resources shortly. 
>
> 
>
> 
>
>Peter Nash
>
>IT teacher
>
>Galvin Park Secondary College
>
>Shaws Road
>
>Werribee. Vic 3030
>
> 
>
>Tel: 03 97414911
>
>Email:  nash.peter.n at edumail.vic.gov.au
>
>________________________________
>
>From: vet-it-bounces at edulists.com.au
>[mailto:vet-it-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of David Doolan
>Sent: Tuesday, 6 February 2007 9:49 AM
>To: vet-it at edulists.com.au
>Subject: [vet-it] Video conference
>
> 
>
>Hi list,
>
> 
>
>With the new changes to "VET IT" this year and what appears to be the
>lack of resources for schools delivering it.
>
>I was wondering if any one would be interested in participating in a
>video conference meeting so we can support each other (I need all the
>support that I can get).  I would be happy to organise and arrange such
>a meeting if people are interested.  
>
>Please send me your name and email address to:
>
> 
>
>David Doolan
>
>Leading School Educator
>
>Far East Gippsland Cluster
>
>(Orbost Secondary College)
>
>Email: doolan.david.j at edumail.vic.gov.au
>
>Phone: 51541084
>
>Skype: david_doolan
>
> 
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