[vet-it] New VET IT course

Kevork Krozian Kroset at novell1.fhc.vic.edu.au
Thu Oct 5 11:08:09 EST 2006


Hi Allan and VET IT colleagues ,
  
   Firstly the program booklet for the new VET course is on the VCAA web site as announced earlier on this list.

   The Cert II has 8 core and 6 elective units ( 310 - 340 hrs ). The first year of the Cert III ( partial ) has only the 8 core from the Cert II ( 220 hrs ) . ( In both cases there is a pre-req of ICAU1128A Operate a Personal computer. ) So, I gather a student could do Cert II and then do Cert III ( partial )except for the fact they would have done 6 extra elective modules in their effort to complete Cert II. That is why p 4 describes the Cert III ( partial ) as comprising the CORE of Cert II plus specific electives from the Cert III course.  

  The only change in this new course is that students can only receive a PARTIAL completion of Cert III. To get  a FULL completion of Cert III students need to do :
           .   6 core
           .  4 OR 6  OR 5 specialist units depending on the stream chosen ( Applications, Network Administration , Support respectively )             
 AND   .  4 elective units

  Looking at the VET program booklet , of the Cert III requirement, Units 1 - 4  of the course covers:
            .  6 core
            . 2 OR 4 OR 4 of the specialist units in the streams in the order listed in the booklet ( Applications, Network Administration , Support respectively ) 
            . 8 of the Cert II core which would not be at a high enough standard for the 4 Electives required for Cert III listed above

     So, to get a student to make up the shortfall between VET units 1 - 4 at school and the FULL Cert III would require another :
             .  2 OR 2 OR 1 of the specialist units in the streams in the order listed in the booklet  ( Applications, Network Administration , Support respectively ) 
AND      .  4 electives from the list of electives permitted as listed in the Training package.

      I calculate that to be in the vicinity of 200 hours in round figures. It is for this reason I believe ( the large shorfall , equating to about another year of work that the VCAA could not impose on students and schools ) that the decision was made to settle for a PARTIAL completion of Cert III in VET Units 1 - 4.  A pity as it was a selling point for our students ( Get VCE units , scored assessment and a FULL Cert III nationally recognised for your 2 years of VET IT ). 

      So, now that I have confused everybody completely, I think it would be useful to put in the RPL section to allow students to demonstrate competence in the units studied in previous years.

      If I have made any wrong assumptions or claims here, please feel free to correct me .

Keep well



Kevork Krozian
IT Manager , Forest Hill College
k.krozian at fhc.vic.edu.au
http://www.fhc.vic.edu.au
Mobile: 0419 356 034

>>> abarnes at aiet.com.au 10/04/06 12:51pm >>>
Hi everyone

After having a good look through the new VET IT program guide I am
interested in feedback from people. It seems to me that it is a much better
structure than the last set up.

The way I read it is that students who complete the Certificate II in IT
will actually get full credit for the first year of the Cert III in IT
course, so essentially students can attempt the Certificate II in IT,
complete it, and then enrol into the second year of the Certificate III in
IT course and select the appropriate stream that they want to complete.

Is this how people read it?

I am currently editing and re-writing the Cert II and Cert III VET IT books,
and am also wondering if people think it will be of use if I add in an RPL
section into the front of the Cert III IT book for students that have
completed either part of the Cert II IT course, or have completed IT
elective units at a Year 10 level and are wanting to receive credit for work
already completed. As with any assessments made by the teacher, though, it
would have to be done by someone with the relevant BSZ or TAA Certificate IV
in Training and Assessment qualifications.

I'd be interested in people's thoughts on any of this.
 


Kind regards


Allan Barnes, CEO
Australian Institute of Education and Training
Phone: (03) 9387 2051
FAX: (03) 9387 3470 
E-mail: abarnes at aiet.com.au 

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