[Technical] NOS Switchover Query

Thu Jul 19 12:52:48 EST 2007

Hi Russell,

Sounds like this might go ahead pretty easily.

At Westall we run a pretty similar system - moodle, squid as a linux proxy,
sarg, novell integration etc. Would be good to organise something.

This Tuesday we are doing a rollout, but howabout the following Tuesday
(31st). Failing that, the Tuesday after that, 7th August? Or any days in
between, my timetable is flexible at the moment.

Perhaps we could schedule it so that both Neil and myself can come throw
some questions around together if both parties agree?

Daniel Stefyn
Westall Secondary College
School: (03) 9546 3233
Mobile: 0417 149 492

On 7/19/07, Russell Curr <RUSSELL at avila.vic.edu.au> wrote:
>
> Hi Daniel,
>
> you are most welcome.  Tuesdays would be the best day for me - less
> encumbered with classes. Gives me some suitable dates and we can then make
> arrangements.
>
> We have both staff Mac laptops (owned by staff) and a class set of Mac
> laptops, plus a few iMacs.  We have not configured the staff laptops to
> automatically attach to the network, although staff can login to Novell and
> access their home folders, via the wireless points around the school.  I
> have an iMac on my desk that I am using for most of my day to day work, and
> we have this setup to authenticate via Netware. And I also run  XP via
> Vmware on the Mac so I can write reports with Markbook.  I have been doing
> this for several months with no significant issues.
>
> cheers
> Russell
>
> --------------------------------------------------------
> Russell Curr
> Network Manager
> Avila College
> Ph: 9831-9645
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>
> >>> dstefyn at gmail.com 07/18/07 4:01 pm >>>
> Hi Russell,
>
> We run a pretty similar setup here at Westall, but I'm interested in how
> you
> manage the Mac authentication into Novell. A few staff have macbook
> laptops
> and so far we have been using windows virtual machines to do the Novell
> integration, anything easier would have a strong ease of use bonus.
>
> I understand Swinburne are also pretty heavily into Novell and Groupwise,
> I'm wondering how you'd respond to allowing a site visit to have a look
> over
> your setup and possibly seeing if we can arrange any mutual technology
> collaboration.
>
> Daniel Stefyn
>
> On 7/17/07, Russell Curr <RUSSELL at avila.vic.edu.au> wrote:
> >
> > ..and similar here Keith.  We have Novell, Windows, and Linux
> > servers.  All authentication done via Novell; email on Groupwise, but
> use
> > Linux for Moodle, Squid, Sarg, CUPS, PaperCut (to manage printing and
> web
> > credits - works a treat).  And we are starting to deploy Mac
> workstations
> > (laptops and desktop systems) that authenticate into Novell.  Have also
> > started using VMserver after using VMworkstation for a couple of years.
> >
> > cheers
> > Russell
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------------
> > Russell Curr
> > Network Manager
> > Avila College
> > Ph: 9831-9645
> > Fax: 03-9888-1202
> > email: russell at avila.vic.edu.au
> > -------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > >>> rgesthuizen at gmail.com 07/17/07 11:39 am >>>
> > Same here Keith, we run a hybrid network that happily supports Novell,
> > Windows and Linux servers and a mix of workstations. Authentication by
> > Novell, application distribution and reimaging by Zenworks, print
> charging
> > with pcounter, some dedicated applications on a Windows server
> > (bibliotech,
> > markbook etc), Linux (mail / moodle / drupal / sarg / squid / squidguard
> > etc). I took some cues from Monash and Swinburne that run similar Novell
> > networks (where our Tech comes from).
> >
> > Of course this isn't Highlander
> > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highlander_%2528film%2529>and we are
> looking
> > to support a school, not a SOHO <
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SOHO_network
> > >
> > network.
> >
> > Instead, give some thought now towards virtualising and migrating all
> your
> > your network servers using VMWare technology. No reason you cannot run
> all
> > these happily together on the one or two physical servers. Once done,
> you
> > can step back and reexamine your network services once hardware is
> removed
> > from the equation and the focus is put back onto services. :-)
> >
> > Regards Roland
> >
> > On 16/07/07, Keith Richardson <keithcr at fastmail.fm> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi everyone - just back in Oz after 3 months away OS. Loved it, but
> have
> > > come down to Earth with a thud...
> > > I am investigating switching our network from Novell to Microsoft 2003
> > > Server.
> > > Any advice?
> > > Cheers, Keith
> > > Keith Richardson
> > >
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