[Year 12 SofDev] Students struggling with SAT ideas

Tue Apr 28 14:48:57 UTC 2020

Hi Andrew,

In terms of xml, I load the xml into a list of record objects. I save the list of records as xml or csv files (that is my “database” I guess). The record object is a class with the properties as fields. The list act as the table for the records.

I’m not sure what language you are using, but I have an old tutorial doc on XML read and written in c# that may be of use. I’ll attach it here.

I also have microsoft stream videos done in VB. I’m not sure if they are accessible to you.

Records
https://web.microsoftstream.com/video/f8f85998-e606-444f-b017-844f0d332ca0
https://web.microsoftstream.com/video/94528f25-8083-4e8a-a39e-b2ba4d3df5d6

XML with Records
https://web.microsoftstream.com/video/2d530756-6df4-440c-ab08-1225538cbf53
https://web.microsoftstream.com/video/f20a249b-cca5-48e2-bd22-b6aa3377148a

I hope that will provide some help.

Regards,
Lony Hem.

From: sofdev <sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au> On Behalf Of Andrew Shortell
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 12:31 PM
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Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Students struggling with SAT ideas

Hi All
Just to follow on from some of the GREAT stuff here

I ask my students to ensure their SAT can

Add, Edit, Delete, Save, Load, Sort, Search  — the 7 absolute requirements.

 We will use a drop in quick sort - i.e. the quick-sort we went over as a group and we all know works (developed in class but relying on other sources as well

Then I use that as a filter on their ideas - can they justify their chosen topic to fit these minimum requirements?

Mine are still in analysis and SRS and GAntt stage - but some are ready to start their DFDs, Use Case, Screen Designs, screen design criteria, usability (usability.gov<https://aus01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fusability.gov%2F&data=02%7C01%7Chem.lony.l%40edumail.vic.gov.au%7C697aac85b5714e014c2608d7eb1c45a5%7Cd96cb3371a8744cfb69b3cec334a4c1f%7C0%7C0%7C637236379030398796&sdata=uAzoYrq2vgYlNpWD1egB5HtURxVTGZBsNf8FWNomMzc%3D&reserved=0>), reading level, audience description, and (maybe soon) pseudo-code, data dictionaries, testing tables,

Luckily I had done a fair bit of theory in term 1 so we have been SAT focussed this term.

The thing I have not covered is  <xml>   files and reading them into a program.
I understand what to do intellectually but am struggling with collections of instances of a class that will be a collection of records (as in database). Stuff online tends to just interact with a database but None of my students have done Informatics/data analysis so I dont want to burden them with learning database as well

Maybe someone can point me to a good resource for that?  Please?

Andrew

Sunbury College for 2020
SofDev, VET CDM & unit 1,2 Computing

On 28 Apr 2020, at 11:54 am, McCleary Scott <McCS at jpc.vic.edu.au<mailto:McCS at jpc.vic.edu.au>> wrote:

Thanks to everyone who has posted or emailed.  I really appreciate the ideas and support.  It’s all helpful.  Hard enough doing the subject for the first time, a little harder by distance when you don’t feel you’re giving your students what they need.

Cheers everyone,

Scott

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Subject: [Year 12 SofDev] Students struggling with SAT ideas

Hi everyone,

I have a few students that seem to have stalled in coming up with ideas for their SAT (yes, it’s getting a bit late, they’re lucky VCAA pushed dates back).

I was curious as to what topics or ideas some of your students had.  I was hoping to compile a bit of a list that I could use with them to give them a push along.  My brain also is limited as it’s my first year teaching SD.  Give me Informatics (Data Analytics) which I have done for several years and I would have no problem.

Any ideas that I could use to help push my students along would be great.

Thanks for helping the newb SD teacher.

P.S. I’ll likely be back here asking other questions about the SAT

Scott McCleary
Middle House Coordinator - Turner

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