[Year 12 SofDev] Enrolment Nnumbers

Mark mark at vceit.com
Sun May 26 09:04:17 UTC 2019


Well said!

On Sun, 26 May 2019 at 18:39, Simon Dorrat <sdorrat at salesian.vic.edu.au>
wrote:

> Whilst I am still a new teacher, and first year in SD and none in
> Informatics, I have a few decades in industry so thought I would share that
> perspective.  It has been raised that career paths need to be relevant to
> encourage students to sign up.  My thoughts on reviewing the new study
> design is that the Data Analytics subject next year is fairly well aligned
> to a much in demand and well compensated career path.  It's just less known
> than the more standard Software Development with programming at its core.
>
> I ran Business Intelligence and Analytics departments at multinational
> companies for close to a decade and we often struggled to recruit capable
> staff.  Mostly we hired expat English/Continental European candidates in
> order to get the right quality and they were in big demand.  Anyone with
> combinations of business knowledge, data analysis, transformation and
> modelling, and visualisation was highly valued.  One advantage of having
> these skills is that you can work not only in IT departments in big
> companies but directly for and in a business unit, where the ability to
> create systems that enable business staff to generate insights from their
> data, quickly and accurately is critical.
>
> These staff earned big dollars, usually more than programmers, both in
> contract ($1000-1300/day) and permanent ($100-150K).  With the growth of
> big data the need for analysts is increasing rapidly and offers a growing
> area of employment with new specialisations like Data Scientist highly
> valued.
>
> The other big growth area in industry is around information management,
> including security.  Most big companies now have a Head of Data, often
> residing in the C-Suite, whose function is both operational and strategic
> with regard to managing and securing information and leveraging it to drive
> business improvement.  The inclusion of this in the Data Analytics course
> is appropriate.
>
> So it seems like the curriculum is on the right track (and can continue to
> improve, possibly with more emphasis on generating insights as against
> communicating them) to provide suitable options for career paths.  The
> emphasis on innovation, visualisations and information security alongside
> the more traditional development seems to be well targeted.  Maybe we need
> to sell the career options more fully to students throughout the middle and
> senior years to increase interest.
>
>
> Simon Dorrat
> TEACHER OF DIGITAL TECHNOLOGIES | ROBOTICS AND INNOVATION | MATHEMATICS
> Bosco Campus
> 10 Bosco St Chadstone 3148
> T +61 3 9807 2644
> F +61 3 9888 1289
> E  sdorrat at salesian.vic.edu.au
> W salesian.vic.edu.au
>
>
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>    1. Re: [Informatics]  Enrolment numbers (Mark)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 22:40:18 +1000
> From: Mark <mark at vceit.com>
> To: "Year 12 VCE Informatics Teachers' Mailing List"
> <informatics at edulists.com.au>,  "Year 12 Software Development
> Teachers' Mailing List" <sofdev at edulists.com.au>
> Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] [Informatics]  Enrolment numbers
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>
> Has anyone surveyed their VCE students about their reasons for selecting
> or rejecting IT subjects?
>
> That might give us a clue.
>
> On Fri, 24 May 2019, 21:46 Andrew Shortell, <shortell at get2me.net> wrote:
>
> > Hi All
> > I rarely post nowadays
> >
> > I still think edulists works well - witness this discussion
> >
> > for sof dev — look at Strathmore - Selina Denis - one of the really
> > really good teachers of sof dev and few if any females in her classes
> >
> > For other schools - it is ages since, as a teacher of sof dev I have
> > had women (girls) in my classes
> >
> > in IDM I also struggled to attract girls to the subject
> >
> > I have had a lot of “skin in the game” - been marking the exam in Sof dev
> > since   1991
> > Yes that is 28 years —>  yes you can go Oh wow  but I am not the only
> > one ( looking at you Claudia) This subject started in 1991 I have also
> > done IPM, IDM and maths marking
> >
> > Yes I have written text books (I am not the only one), practice exams
> > (as have others), the real VCAA exam ( as have others) I have been
> > involved in Algorithmics
> >
> > So why are we losing students —> is it just the fault of career advisors?
> > or is it just the fault of Unis not asking for pre-requisites?
> >
> > have we lost relevance ?  yet Data Analytics is SO IMPORTANT e.g. the
> > latest election polls — or other things
> >
> > so who are our pre-eminent sales people? why are they not succeeding?
> >
> > what to do?     ???
> >
> > I don’t offer my ideas because they have not been wonderfully
> > successful - instead I ask those people with bigger classes to share
> > where it has worked
> >
> > (Yes i love the idea of year 10 commerce - computing in disguise) (
> > and the year 9/10 event management subject - project management on a
> > big scale)
> >
> > so PLEASE if you have bigger classes ———>   WHY ?????
> >
> > Andrew
> > At Lalor SC this year
> >
> >
> >
> > On 24 May 2019, at 5:21 pm, Roland Gesthuizen <rgesthuizen at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > I kind of agree with Kevork, we have 5 surviving and evolving choices ..
> > If we hadn’t changed every now and then, we would certainly have been
> > run over. I salute all the past labours to get to where we are now.
> >
> > My idle fingers just had a peek at QLD for year 11 for inspiration
> >
> > • Digital Solutions (2019)
> > <https://www.qcaa.qld.edu.au/senior/senior-subjects/technologies/digit
> > al-solutions> • Information & Communication Technology Skills (2019)
> > <https://www.qcaa.qld.edu.au/senior/senior-subjects/technologies/infor
> > mation-communication-technology-skills>
> >
> > and then year 12 ..  • ICT & Design
> > <https://www.qcaa.qld.edu.au/senior/subjects/ict-design> … and
> > something interesting happened, check it out yourself. Any thoughts?
> >
> > I am going to the QSITE Conference in a couple of weeks to talk about
> > my Robotics work. Peeking over the horizon .. hint hint
> > <https://jason.zagami.info/theora-research/educational-technologies/au
> > stralian-trends>
> > --
> >
> > *Roland GESTHUIZEN*http://about.me/rgesthuizen
> >
> > On 23 May 2019, at 3:22 pm, Kevork Krozian <kkrozian at rt.vic.edu.au>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Folks
> >
> >  In the first phase of the VCE ( 1990 ? ) which from memory coincided
> > with the new Information Technology study, we had three streams:
> >
> >
> >    1. Information Technology Systems ( before it became IT Software
> >    Development )
> >    2. Information  Technology Applications  ( I think, before it became
> >    IPM, then Informatics ... )
> >    3. Information Technology in Society ( which passed away fairly soon
> >    after it was released with few takers )
> >
> >
> >  But during this time we have also had:
> >
> >    1. VET ICT30115 Certificate III in Information, Digital Media and
> >    Technology
> >    2. VET Cisco Networking ( Routing, Switching, LANs, WANs, protocols,
> >    security )
> >    3. HESS Algorithmics ( see
> >
> https://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/Documents/vce/algorithmics/AlgorithmicsSD-2017.pdf
> >     )
> >
> >
> > I know that other vendors like Microsoft, 3Com, RedHat have tried over
> > the years to introduce their industry courses into the VCE .
> > What better way to get your product immersed into society than by
> > getting children to use it in schools  ?
> >
> >  Overall, we have been blessed in the VCE space with 5 surviving and
> > currently evolving choices.
> >
> > However, I do accept Informatics has become less and less relevant, a
> > bit like the Office Applications that began life as IT but soon
> > slipped into business studies or office administration courses over
> > time.  Then again, it is possible to do very complex tasks with Word
> > macros and Excel functions.
> >
> >
> > Speak soon
> >
> > Kevork
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> > *From:* informatics <informatics-bounces at edulists.com.au> on behalf of
> > Mark <mark at vceit.com>
> > *Sent:* Thursday, 23 May 2019 2:26:33 PM
> > *To:* Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List; Year 12 VCE
> > Informatics Teachers' Mailing List
> > *Subject:* Re: [Informatics] [Year 12 SofDev] Enrolment numbers
> >
> > I cynically suspect that the Informatics course was trying to exploit
> > students' interest in soft sciences like psych and sociology and
> > communication-rich exercises (the MMOS) - maybe to lure
> > oestrogen-enabled punters.
> >
> > Didn't work.
> >
> > Kids who wanted IT expected to get IT.
> > Informatics gave them hypotheses, stats, and just enough IT to make
> > these happen.
> >
> > Kids who want soft science and communications do psych/sociology/drama.
> > Informatics gave them 2NF, The Privacy Act 1988 and user flow diagrams.
> >
> > Informatics didn't really deliver anything much to anyone.
> > As I've said before, I believe IPM/ITA/Informatics is still riding
> > through the desert on a horse with no name looking for an identity.
> >
> > Just my 2.2 cents. Spend it wisely.
> >
> > 😲
> >
> > On Thu, 23 May 2019 at 12:11, Lisa Kerekes <
> > Lisa.Kerekes at donvale.vic.edu.au> wrote:
> >
> > The numbers seem to reflect young people’s desire to learn about
> > themselves and the world, to help others, and make a difference.
> >
> > Q: How can Computing show its relevance (and perhaps applications for
> > tech to solve problems) in these areas?
> >
> > Just what went through my mind.
> >
> > Lisa K
> >
> >
> > > On 23 May 2019, at 10:11 am, Rattan, Kushum L <
> > rattan.kushum.l at edumail.vic.gov.au> wrote:
> > >
> > > Another growing subject at my school is Sociology where they look at
> > > all
> > the current issues facing societies such as refugees, terrorism,
> > migration, ageing etc and the kids love it.
> > >
> > > Kushum Rattan
> > > ICT Curriculum Area Leader
> > > VET Co-ordinator
> > > Gisborne Secondary College
> > > Phone: 03 54283691
> > > rattan.kushum.l at edumail.vic.gov.au
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: sofdev <sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au> On Behalf Of Stephen
> > Trouse
> > > Sent: Thursday, 23 May 2019 8:03 AM
> > > To: sofdev at edulists.com.au
> > > Subject: [Year 12 SofDev] Enrolment numbers
> > >
> > > As I suspected.  Psych numbers burgeoning!  The future is therapy!
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
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> > sofdev-request at edulists.com.au
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> > >   1. Re: Enrollment Numbers (Mark)
> > >
> > >
> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------
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> > >
> > > Message: 1
> > > Date: Wed, 22 May 2019 16:20:10 +1000
> > > From: Mark <mark at vceit.com>
> > > To: "Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List"
> > > <sofdev at edulists.com.au>
> > > Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Enrollment Numbers
> > > Message-ID:
> > > <CACu=8Z0vU7F3wwbLQR5mEom8QzqcR5e4KnEpcJiFwS87xgJXfw at mail.gmail.com>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> > >
> > > *2001*
> > > *Psych U1*
> > > Male 2,922
> > > Female 10,179
> > > Total 13,101
> > >
> > > *Psych U3*
> > > M 2,852
> > > F 10,068
> > > Total 12,920
> > >
> > > ---------------------------
> > > *2018*
> > > *Psych U1*
> > > M 5,119
> > > F 12,605
> > > Total 17,739 (includes 15 intersex students)
> > >
> > > *Psych U3*
> > > M 4,479
> > > F 11,435
> > > Total 15,927 (includes 13 intersex students)
> > >
> > > *Boys are picking up psych!*
> > >
> > >
> > >> On Wed, 22 May 2019 at 15:14, Stephen Trouse <
> > Stephen.Trouse at flinders.vic.edu.au> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> I'd like to see the numbers for Psychology as a comparison.
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: sofdev <sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au> On Behalf Of
> > >> sofdev-request at edulists.com.au
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> > >> uli
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> > >> kus
> > >> hum.l%40edumail.vic.gov.au%7Cf36cf452917b4d8201d408d6df01584f%7Cd96
> > >> cb3
> > >> 371a8744cfb69b3cec334a4c1f%7C0%7C0%7C636941594428169757&sdata=j
> > >> jwV
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> > >>
> > >>   1. Re: Enrollment Numbers (Litsa Tzelepis)
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> -------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >> ---
> > >>
> > >> Message: 1
> > >> Date: Wed, 22 May 2019 14:44:10 +1000
> > >> From: Litsa Tzelepis <htzelepis at msj.vic.edu.au>
> > >> To: "Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List"
> > >>        <sofdev at edulists.com.au>
> > >> Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Enrollment Numbers
> > >> Message-ID:
> > >>        <
> > >> CAODCwv9uvQAv8WvYd8meoSerjZUCJOhSYqHdF605p-eUzney_Q at mail.gmail.com>
> > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> > >>
> > >> no no - mark collated the data and chart while I was shuffling
> > >> papers
> > >> - he's the genius -
> > >> 😃
> > >>
> > >> On Wed, May 22, 2019 at 2:20 PM Jolly, Michael D <
> > >> Jolly.Michael.D at edumail.vic.gov.au> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Wow!
> > >>>
> > >>> Oh yeah, and “good job”!
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Mike Jolly from Kyneton
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> *From:* sofdev <sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au> *On Behalf Of
> > >>> *Litsa Tzelepis
> > >>> *Sent:* Wednesday, 22 May 2019 1:45 PM
> > >>> *To:* Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List <
> > >>> sofdev at edulists.com.au>
> > >>> *Subject:* Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Enrollment Numbers
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> so.... for the last hour I have been clicking around with a
> > >>> notepad and 2B pencil - lol
> > >>>
> > >>> thanks mark - litsa
> > >>>
> > >>> 📝
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On Wed, May 22, 2019 at 1:31 PM Mark <mark at vceit.com> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> IT enrolments - the complete sad tale from 2001 to 2018
> > >>>
> > >>> [image: computing enrolments 2001-2018.jpg]
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> You can get the full XLSX in the attachment. Let me know if you
> > >>> have issues with it - I created in in LibreOffice.
> > >>>
> > >>> (And yes, it includes male and female breakdowns.)
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Enjoy - and try not to weep.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Regards,
> > >>>
> > >>> Mark
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On Wed, 22 May 2019 at 12:37, Litsa Tzelepis
> > >>> <htzelepis at msj.vic.edu.au>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Excellent everyone - I really appreciate your help?
> > >>>
> > >>> Litsa 🌻
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On Wed, May 22, 2019 at 12:07 PM Scott Wallace <
> > >>> Scott.Wallace at beaconhills.vic.edu.au> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Any chance of getting the breakdown between male and female
> enrolments?
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> *Scott Wallace *
> > >>>
> > >>> *Head of House (Rich) *
> > >>>
> > >>> *Head of Campus eLearning and Information Technology*
> > >>>
> > >>> *Beaconhills College, Pakenham*
> > >>>
> > >>> *(03) 5945-3014*
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> *[image: email_Sig]*
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> *From:* sofdev <sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au> *On Behalf Of
> > >>> *Mark
> > >>> *Sent:* Wednesday, 22 May 2019 12:06 PM
> > >>> *To:* Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List <
> > >>> sofdev at edulists.com.au>
> > >>> *Subject:* Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Enrollment Numbers
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> hehehe. I followed Geoff's link and was amused to find the
> > >>> enrolments in
> > >>> *2001*:
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> IT 1 - *17,113*
> > >>>
> > >>> Information Processing and Management U3 - *13,344*
> > >>>
> > >>> Information Systems U3 (SD) - *3,346*
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> And in *2015*...
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> IT1 - *4,959*
> > >>>
> > >>> IT Apps - *2,651*
> > >>>
> > >>> SD - *1,385*
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> How times change
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On Wed, 22 May 2019 at 11:48, Mark <mark at vceit.com> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Earlier I found 2016 and 2017.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> [image: computing 2016-2017.jpg]
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> I just found 2018 here
> > >>> <https://aus01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2
> > >>> Fw
> > >>> ww
> > >>> .vcaa.vic.edu.au%2FPages%2Fvce%2Fstatistics%2F2018%2Fstatssect2.as
> > >>> px
> > >>> &d
> > >>> ata=02%7C01%7Cjolly.michael.d%40edumail.vic.gov.au%7Cf9db6aec60f44
> > >>> d4
> > >>> 74
> > >>> ab008d6de6803f8%7Cd96cb3371a8744cfb69b3cec334a4c1f%7C0%7C0%7C63694
> > >>> 09
> > >>> 35
> > >>> 766387479&sdata=Ji5dJaTBVvzUSyGuVQeEpHMmeHmabSoRq7%2BdSoSvrNQ%3D&r
> > >>> es
> > >>> er
> > >>> ved=0>
> > >>> .
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> [image: computing 2016-2018.jpg]
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Informatics died a long, horrible - yet predictable - death.
> > >>>
> > >>> 💀
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On Wed, 22 May 2019 at 10:28, Litsa Tzelepis
> > >>> <htzelepis at msj.vic.edu.au>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Good morning,
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> is there anywhere that I can access the enrollment numbers for
> > >>> Computing
> > >>> (11 & 12) over the last few years?
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> We are heading into subject selection confirmation lists over the
> > >>> next few days.
> > >>>
> > >>> I'd appreciate any direction - not to worry if it doesn't exist -
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Have a great day,
> > >>>
> > >>> Litsa 🌼
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> --
> > >>>
> > >>> Litsa Tzelepis
> > >>> Mount St. Joseph Girls' College
> > >>> 133 Maidstone Street, Altona, VIC. 3018 htzelepis at msj.vic.edu.au
> > >>>
> > >>> P:8398 2000
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> --
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Mark Kelly
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> mark at vceit.com
> > >>>
> > >>> https://aus01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fv
> > >>> ce
> > >>> it.com&data=02%7C01%7Crattan.kushum.l%40edumail.vic.gov.au%7Cf
> > >>> 36
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> > >>> ec
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