[Year 12 SofDev] Curious Question
timmer at westnet.com.au
timmer at westnet.com.au
Tue Sep 4 05:56:42 EDT 2018
Hello all
I agree Kevork, it's complicated.Just to throw in some more
technological confusion, I had range issues with my wireless network
at home. The internet connected tv in the lounge room was on the
borderline of the modem's range - reception was dodgy. Went to JB HiFi
and bought a pair of D-link Powerlines (just under $200, so not
necessarily cheap), plugged one into the AC where the modem was,
plugged the other into the tv's AC, connected the data links at each
end, pressed a couple of buttons and problem solved - a wired network
through the AC wiring of the house.
RegardsRobert T-A
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Hi Folks,
The question is far too general in nature as one can have a very
simple wireless network and a very complex wired network and vice
versa. Generally for home and SOHO use I would think wireless is
pretty straightforward for a basic setup ( DHCP, dynamic IP address
for the internet, WPA2 encryption, SSID broadcast ). I am thinking
about 10 minutes ?? Time required and complexity increase as the
security requirement increases from this point on.
For a wired network one still needs to set up DHCP, dynamic IP
address for the internet but not WPA2 encryption and SSID broadcast
If port forwarding is needed it is required regardless which of
wired/wireless is used.
All in all, wireless has become a lot easier to set up and use.
Wired is costly ( $150 - $200 per connection point ) and less
flexible.
A wired network can have 802.1x security for the port a device
connects to requiring some work to configure correctly, based on
either machine or user authentication or no security at all.
Repeat after me -
wired simple, wireless complex .... not necessarily ( see
above ) tunneling means increased security - not necessarily
(GRE tunnels are clear text ) username and password increase security
- yes, but if sent in clear text, they can be sniffed and captured.
All in all it would do our students a better service to discuss the
parameters of general statements such as the ones here.
My 2c ..
Kevork Krozian Ringwood SC tel: 0419 356 034
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FROM: sofdev on behalf of Vella, James
SENT: Tuesday, 4 September 2018 12:42:18 PM
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SUBJECT: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Curious Question With advances in
networking technologies, the question could elicit a correct response
in both camps.
A simple wired network can be setup between two devices by simply
connecting two devices with a NIC/Ethernet ports using an Ethernet
cable. No need for a switch.
A simple wireless network can be setup by connecting devices to a
'personal hotspot'.
Also depends on how you define easier....
Cheers
JV
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You can't have wireless network without wired network. Wireless has
to be wired somewhere.
Sam
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Hi all,
If a student asked you which was easier to setup a wired network or a
wireless network what would your answer be?
I chose wired
Cheers,
Ben.
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