[Year 12 SofDev] sofdev Digest, Vol 138, Issue 8
Robert Hind
robert at yinnar.com
Thu Sep 1 22:04:40 AEST 2016
Thanks Robbie
You are also saying that accuracy and correctness are the same.
Robert Hind
Ex Traralgon and Ashwood
Retired
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Hi just respond to the discuss about accuracy and precision.
Accuracy refers to the ability to obtain the correct measurement.
Precision refers to the minimum difference the instrument can measure. For
example, units and decimal places.
1.8 m tall might be accurate but not precise.
1.564334 metres tall is precise but may not accurate.
Robbie Xin
Dandenong High School
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Hi all,
I have spoken about accuracy in terms of precision.
I could say I am about 1.8 metres tall. That is correct, but not accurate.
I could say I am 1.564334 metres tall. That is accurate, but not correct.
Each situation will require a different level of accuracy that is acceptable
or expected.
Can't think of a situation where accuracy is important but correctness not.
Andrew Pate
VCE Computing teacher
Mentone Grammar
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And I teach them that dates recorded in this format in a file-naming
convention is both correct and accurate as the files self-sort by date.
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Sorry I did mean the opposite! Big week.
Try again??.
I taught my kids that if you are asked for a date in DD/MM/YYY format in a
program then whilst ?1st of September 2016? is accurate, writing 01/09/2016
is correct.
Travis Parker
Timetabler
The Knox School
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[mailto:sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Mark
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I'd say the opposite.
I don't think this question is ever going to be answered until we have a
plebiscite, a Royal Commission or at least a dance-off competition.
Regards,
Mark
On 1 September 2016 at 14:17, Travis Parker
<Travis.Parker at knox.vic.edu.au<mailto:Travis.Parker at knox.vic.edu.au>> wrote:
I taught my kids that if you are asked for a date in DD/MM/YYY format in a
program then whilst ?1st of September 2016? is technically correct, writing
01/09/2016 is accurate.
Mistake???
Travis Parker
Timetabler
The Knox School
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[mailto:sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au<mailto:sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au
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andcorrectness?
I have read Mark's views on this
http://vceit.com/wp/correctness-versus-accuracy/
Don't think they helped :-)
I think they are essentially synonymous:
eg my phone number is 0477999111 is both accurate and correct.
Robert Hind
Ex Traralgon and Ashwood
Retired
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Sent: Thursday, 1 September 2016 12:54 PM
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Subject: [Year 12 SofDev] Data Integrity: different between accuracy
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Hi all,
As part of the five characteristics of data integrity we have both accuracy
and correctness; how do we differentiate the two of these?
Thanks
Ben Hines
Ben Hines
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Senior Campus
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Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2016 11:17:21 +0000
From: "Matheson, Geoff J" <matheson.geoff.j at edumail.vic.gov.au>
Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Data Integrity: different between
accuracy and correctness
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That?s how I?ve taught it. Accuracy as being related to precision ? whereas
correctness being the simple right or wrong. But the opinions of the
majority I?ve seen so far have me wondering whether I might need to
re-teach.
Geoff Matheson
Leading Teacher: Teaching and Learning Coach ? Classroom Support
On 1/09/2016, 9:09 PM, "sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of Andrew
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Hi all,
I have spoken about accuracy in terms of precision.
I could say I am about 1.8 metres tall. That is correct, but not
accurate.
I could say I am 1.564334 metres tall. That is accurate, but not
correct.
Each situation will require a different level of accuracy that is
acceptable or expected.
Can't think of a situation where accuracy is important but correctness
not.
Andrew Pate
VCE Computing teacher
Mentone Grammar
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And I teach them that dates recorded in this format in a file-naming
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YYYYMMDD
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Sent: Thursday, 1 September 2016 3:31 PM
To: Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Data Integrity: different between accuracy
andcorrectness?
Sorry I did mean the opposite! Big week.
Try again??.
I taught my kids that if you are asked for a date in DD/MM/YYY format in
a program then whilst ?1st of September 2016? is accurate, writing
01/09/2016 is correct.
Travis Parker
Timetabler
The Knox School
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Sent: Thursday, 1 September 2016 2:40 PM
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Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Data Integrity: different between accuracy
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I'd say the opposite.
I don't think this question is ever going to be answered until we have a
plebiscite, a Royal Commission or at least a dance-off competition.
Regards,
Mark
On 1 September 2016 at 14:17, Travis Parker
<Travis.Parker at knox.vic.edu.au<mailto:Travis.Parker at knox.vic.edu.au>> wrote:
I taught my kids that if you are asked for a date in DD/MM/YYY format in
a program then whilst ?1st of September 2016? is technically correct,
writing 01/09/2016 is accurate.
Mistake???
Travis Parker
Timetabler
The Knox School
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Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Data Integrity: different between accuracy
andcorrectness?
I have read Mark's views on this
http://vceit.com/wp/correctness-versus-accuracy/
Don't think they helped :-)
I think they are essentially synonymous:
eg my phone number is 0477999111 is both accurate and correct.
Robert Hind
Ex Traralgon and Ashwood
Retired
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[mailto:sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Ben Hines
Sent: Thursday, 1 September 2016 12:54 PM
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Subject: [Year 12 SofDev] Data Integrity: different between accuracy
andcorrectness?
Hi all,
As part of the five characteristics of data integrity we have both
accuracy and correctness; how do we differentiate the two of these?
Thanks
Ben Hines
Ben Hines
Mathematics and ICT Teacher
Senior Campus
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