[Year 12 SofDev] sofdev Digest, Vol 128, Issue 24

Weiyuan, Xin X weiyuan.xin.x at edumail.vic.gov.au
Fri Nov 20 11:24:48 AEDT 2015


Hi Adrian,

Could you add me in your list as well?

Thanks,

Weiyuan Xin

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   1. Re: sofdev Digest, Vol 128, Issue 23 (Vella, James)
   2. Learnt Helpness and strategies to cope. (Nayak, Jayanti S)
   3. Re: sofdev Digest, Vol 128, Issue 23 (Kevork KROZIAN)


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Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2015 23:06:11 +0000
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Adrian,

While you're adding Phil in there, please add me in to the Dropbox as well.

Kind Regards

JV


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   1. Re: itapps Digest, Vol 129, Issue 46 (Samantha Mitchell)
   2. Re: 2016 Transition for Software Development (Philip Feain)


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Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2015 05:41:44 +0000
From: Samantha Mitchell <MITCHELLS at milsen.vic.edu.au>
Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] itapps Digest, Vol 129, Issue 46
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Thank you very much Paula!

?
Samantha Mitchell
Mildura Senior College
Ph: 03 5021 2911
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From: sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Christophersen, Paula P
Sent: Thursday, 19 November 2015 3:49 PM
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Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] itapps Digest, Vol 129, Issue 46

Hi Samantha

I'm certain that we would be able to provide some form of electronic communication. A webinar maybe a little tricky, but video conferencing (Polycom etc) is a feasible option. It would be good if there were some other teachers in the area who could all meet together so that when there are group activities you can be involved. If you know of anyone else maybe you could establish a connection now.

Can you just remind at the beginning of the school year about this arrangement.

Regards
Paula

Paula Christophersen
Curriculum Manager, Digital Technologies Victorian Curriculum and Assessment Authority
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Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] itapps Digest, Vol 129, Issue 46

Thanks Paula,
Do you think it is possible they will be run webinar format?
Regards,

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Samantha Mitchell
Mildura Senior College
Ph: 03 5021 2911
mitchells at milsen.vic.edu.au
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Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] itapps Digest, Vol 129, Issue 46

Dear colleagues

The next Bulletin will have a notice about the SAT training days - there will be details about location and a registration form. But as a heads up the dates are:

Software development - 15 February 2016
Informatics - 22 February 2016

These sessions are run by the VCAA and are free.

Regards
Paula

Paula Christophersen
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From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Christopher Jansen
Sent: Thursday, 19 November 2015 12:31 PM
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I was under the impression that there was going to be some training day early next year. Maybe by DLTV? Is there any dates for this.. or is this still going to happen?

Thanks
Chris

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Hi all

In regards to the SAT, does anyone have any example hypotheses that students may choose to investigate.

Trying to get my head around it all.

Michael

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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2015 09:59:43 +1100
From: Philip Feain <feainp at stkevins.vic.edu.au>
Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] 2016 Transition for Software Development
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Hi Adrian

I am running classes with my Year 12s next week.

I would like to be added to your Dropbox folder as well if that's possible?
I am particularly interested in discussing U4 O2 and I am interested in how that looks.

Regards

Phil Feain
St. Kevin's College

On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 3:19 PM, Adrian Janson <janson.adrian.a at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Stacy,
>
> Have I added you to my dropbox folder? - I have the full (draft) text 
> available there and this would be quite helpful for orientation I imagine!
>
> Cheers,
> Adrian Janson
>
> ------------------------------
> From: kyriakou.stacey.d at edumail.vic.gov.au
> To: sofdev at edulists.com.au
> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2015 23:11:42 +0000
> Subject: [Year 12 SofDev] 2016 Transition for Software Development
>
> Hi all
>
> I am hoping there might be some people on here that could provide me 
> with some ideas/resources/activities etc for Software Development 
> Orientation/Transition? Year 12 Transition begins next week for us and 
> even though I will not be the teacher of this subject next year, I 
> will be taking the orientation classes. I have never taught this 
> subject before and don?t even know where to start. As it is a new 
> study design, just wondering if anyone has thought about what they 
> will be doing for orientation time and might be so kind to share with me (and others).
>
> I know the PSM overlap with IT Apps(Informatics) which is what I have 
> taught in the past, so I know I can cover this with the students?.but 
> any other ideas would be greatly appreciated!
>
> Thanks in advance! :)
>
> *Stacey Kyriakou*
>
> Maths/IT/EAL Teacher
>
> Footscray City College
> 1 Kinnear Street | Footscray | 3011
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2015 22:36:30 +0000
From: "Nayak, Jayanti S" <nayak.jayanti.s at edumail.vic.gov.au>
Subject: [Year 12 SofDev] Learnt Helpness and strategies to cope.
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I came across this article on "Learnt helplessness " last evening which I wanted to share with you.



Learnt helplessness is a strategy for getting other people to solve problems for you. In the classroom, for pupils, these others may be the teacher, LSA, classroom assistant or other pupils.



In computing/ICT learnt helplessness can be seen in various ways. Sweet helplessness often manifests to the teacher as a pupil putting on a sweet helpless voice and declaring they are stuck. Aggressive helplessness manifests with a cross tone and the implication that they think the work is ?stupid? or they don?t get it. Being stuck is never a problem but if you ask what they are stuck on and the pupil cannot tell you or describe the problem or they give vague indications that they are stuck on everything then there is a good chance they are using learnt helplessness to get you to solve their problem. Similar strategies will often be used with their peers, tailored to make the problem solver feel valued, superior or pressured into helping.



http://www.ictinpractice.com/eight-steps-to-promote-problem-solving-and-resilience-and-combat-learnt-helplessness-in-computing-by-phil-bagge/



Ms. Nayak,
Info Tech Teacher,
Sunbury College, 30, Race Course Road,
Sunbury - 3429.

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Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2015 23:29:12 +0000
From: Kevork KROZIAN <kkrozian at ringwoodsc.vic.edu.au>
Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] sofdev Digest, Vol 128, Issue 23
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Hi Adrian

 The list keeps growing. Can you add me in too please ?

Kind Regards

Kevork Krozian
Ringwood SC
tel: 0419 356 034

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Sent: Friday, 20 November 2015 10:06 AM
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Adrian,

While you're adding Phil in there, please add me in to the Dropbox as well.

Kind Regards

JV


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2015 05:41:44 +0000
From: Samantha Mitchell <MITCHELLS at milsen.vic.edu.au>
Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] itapps Digest, Vol 129, Issue 46
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Thank you very much Paula!

?
Samantha Mitchell
Mildura Senior College
Ph: 03 5021 2911
mitchells at milsen.vic.edu.au
www.milsen.vic.edu.au
Respect. Resilience. Responsibility. Independence. Success.


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From: sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Christophersen, Paula P
Sent: Thursday, 19 November 2015 3:49 PM
To: Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List <sofdev at edulists.com.au>
Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] itapps Digest, Vol 129, Issue 46

Hi Samantha

I'm certain that we would be able to provide some form of electronic communication. A webinar maybe a little tricky, but video conferencing (Polycom etc) is a feasible option. It would be good if there were some other teachers in the area who could all meet together so that when there are group activities you can be involved. If you know of anyone else maybe you could establish a connection now.

Can you just remind at the beginning of the school year about this arrangement.

Regards
Paula

Paula Christophersen
Curriculum Manager, Digital Technologies Victorian Curriculum and Assessment Authority
2 Lonsdale Street
MELBOURNE 3000
(03) 9032 1724
0407 043 110


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From: sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Samantha Mitchell
Sent: Thursday, 19 November 2015 3:41 PM
To: Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] itapps Digest, Vol 129, Issue 46

Thanks Paula,
Do you think it is possible they will be run webinar format?
Regards,

?
Samantha Mitchell
Mildura Senior College
Ph: 03 5021 2911
mitchells at milsen.vic.edu.au
www.milsen.vic.edu.au
Respect. Resilience. Responsibility. Independence. Success.

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From: sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Christophersen, Paula P
Sent: Thursday, 19 November 2015 1:20 PM
To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List <itapps at edulists.com.au>; Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List <sofdev at edulists.com.au>
Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] itapps Digest, Vol 129, Issue 46

Dear colleagues

The next Bulletin will have a notice about the SAT training days - there will be details about location and a registration form. But as a heads up the dates are:

Software development - 15 February 2016
Informatics - 22 February 2016

These sessions are run by the VCAA and are free.

Regards
Paula

Paula Christophersen
Curriculum Manager, Digital Technologies Victorian Curriculum and Assessment Authority
2 Lonsdale Street
MELBOURNE 3000
(03) 9032 1724
0407 043 110


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From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Christopher Jansen
Sent: Thursday, 19 November 2015 12:31 PM
To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] itapps Digest, Vol 129, Issue 46

I was under the impression that there was going to be some training day early next year. Maybe by DLTV? Is there any dates for this.. or is this still going to happen?

Thanks
Chris

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From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Bretag, Michael M
Sent: Thursday, 19 November 2015 10:53 AM
To: itapps at edulists.com.au
Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] itapps Digest, Vol 129, Issue 46


Hi all

In regards to the SAT, does anyone have any example hypotheses that students may choose to investigate.

Trying to get my head around it all.

Michael

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Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2015 09:59:43 +1100
From: Philip Feain <feainp at stkevins.vic.edu.au>
Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] 2016 Transition for Software Development
To: "Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List"
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Hi Adrian

I am running classes with my Year 12s next week.

I would like to be added to your Dropbox folder as well if that's possible?
I am particularly interested in discussing U4 O2 and I am interested in how that looks.

Regards

Phil Feain
St. Kevin's College

On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 3:19 PM, Adrian Janson <janson.adrian.a at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Stacy,
>
> Have I added you to my dropbox folder? - I have the full (draft) text 
> available there and this would be quite helpful for orientation I imagine!
>
> Cheers,
> Adrian Janson
>
> ------------------------------
> From: kyriakou.stacey.d at edumail.vic.gov.au
> To: sofdev at edulists.com.au
> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2015 23:11:42 +0000
> Subject: [Year 12 SofDev] 2016 Transition for Software Development
>
> Hi all
>
> I am hoping there might be some people on here that could provide me 
> with some ideas/resources/activities etc for Software Development 
> Orientation/Transition? Year 12 Transition begins next week for us and 
> even though I will not be the teacher of this subject next year, I 
> will be taking the orientation classes. I have never taught this 
> subject before and don?t even know where to start. As it is a new 
> study design, just wondering if anyone has thought about what they 
> will be doing for orientation time and might be so kind to share with me (and others).
>
> I know the PSM overlap with IT Apps(Informatics) which is what I have 
> taught in the past, so I know I can cover this with the students?.but 
> any other ideas would be greatly appreciated!
>
> Thanks in advance! :)
>
> *Stacey Kyriakou*
>
> Maths/IT/EAL Teacher
>
> Footscray City College
> 1 Kinnear Street | Footscray | 3011
> (T) +61 3 8387 1527 | (F) +61 3 8387 1599
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