[Year 12 SofDev] Does anyone have a Unit 3 Outcome 2 exemplar?

Sat Mar 30 16:38:42 EST 2013

Hi Simone,

I am now officially retired - but!

I agree totally with Andrew. All your marking should do is rank your students reliably based on the work they do for you on the SACs. Never mind their exam marks - the VCAA uses the exam marks to moderate your internal marking as it does for every teacher in the state (and in all subjects too).  I was always a tad on the hard side but that in no way disadvantaged my students. Just as those teachers who mark on the easy side effectively get "marked down" by the moderation against the exam marks and their students get no extra advantage. So  just stick to required criteria and don't worry about spurious info from VCAA.

Robert Hind (Retired) OOF, GOM, COF
ex Ashwood and Traralgon
robert at yinnar.com

   ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Simone Tynan 
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  Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2013 3:30 PM
  Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Does anyone have a Unit 3 Outcome 2 exemplar?

  Hi Andrew,

  It isn't a biggy. I found a copy of a report which looks like mine (from VASS). I was told that I should be aiming for the dark mustard line in the middle. Where as mine is in about the same position as the blue line is in this slide. "Shows school's assessment scale is more challenging than the State Scale". It has been suggested that this might be why I was put down for auditing this year. (Who knows, might be a Furphy!!)

  Thanks,

  Simone

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  On 30/03/2013, at 2:23 PM, Andrew Shortell wrote:

  hi Simone

  It is my understanding that the actual mark is irrelevant. It is the RANK order that is important. Also that none of your top ten students have the same total mark at the end of the year unless you totally believe that they are exactly the same in terms of the quality of work produced. EXACTLY the same.

  the work that yo are assessing in SACs is intellectually different to what is assessed in the exam. Your marks are only there to create a rank order.  VCAA uses that rank order to assign the students a mark based on the whole groups' exam results. WHOLE group. not the individual.

  thus it does nto matter how hard you mark - just get the rank order absolutely correct. in terms of the work that you see - NOT in terms of their exam.

  Andrew

  Andrew Shortell
  Educator
  CRC Melton

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  On 27/03/2013, at 11:30 AM, Adrian Janson <janson.adrian.a at edumail.vic.gov.au> wrote:

    Hi Simone,

    OK – my 2c - just to protect myself – my first amendment clause ;)

    When you say “I was too hard in my marking for ITA, according to VCAA” – really the marking of a SAC (hard or easy) is a local decision AS LONG AS the key skills are being assessed.  In my opinion, as long as the task meets the requirements and the assessment is sufficient to discriminate (create a spread of marks in your class), then you can use a hard or easy marking scheme – it’s up to you.  You need to be able to justify the way you have come up with the scheme or the way you have marked.

    Cheers,
    Adrian Janson
    eLearning
    Melbourne High School

    From: sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Simone Tynan
    Sent: Wednesday, 27 March 2013 11:06 AM
    To: Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List
    Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Does anyone have a Unit 3 Outcome 2 exemplar?

    Hi Claudia. I guess I was looking for a standard. Keeping in mind that everyone's sacs and language will be different, looking at the non coding parts would give idea of what to mark for. Last year I was too hard in my marking for ITA, according to VCAA. This year teaching SD for the first time in 5 years. Trying to ease off a bit, but worried about marking too easy. Looking at what others expect would help a bit to work out how to mark this next sac. 
    Many thanks
    Simone 

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    On 27/03/2013, at 9:27 AM, Claudia Graham <claudia.graham at overnewton.vic.edu.au> wrote:

      Hi Simone,

      What exactly are you looking for – it’s a bit hard to provide answers for U302 as its reliant on the language studied.

      Regards
      Claudia

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      From: sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Simone Tynan
      Sent: Tuesday, 26 March 2013 3:21 PM
      To: Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List
      Subject: [Year 12 SofDev] Does anyone have a Unit 3 Outcome 2 exemplar?

      Hi all,
      Just wondering if anyone has a U3O2 exemplar/set of answers that they are willing to share? Just interested in looking at what others may see as the goal post.
      Many thanks
      Simone

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      Simone Tynan
      eLearning Leader
      LOTE Leader P-12
      Simone.Tynan at shcy.vic.edu.au

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