[Year 12 SofDev] Physical Layer
Kevork Krozian
kevork at edulists.com.au
Thu Mar 10 23:00:15 EST 2011
Hi Russell,
Sorry for the delay ... busy teaching the OSI model in Cisco ....
The KK : purposes and functions of the physical layer (Layer 1) of the OSI
and the relationship of the physical layer to the Transmission Control
Protocol/Internet Protocol model
is still unclear to me. The OSI physical (layer 1) layer's relationship
with the TCP/IP protocol model ( read as Transmission Control
Protocol/Internet Protocol Protocol ) is as much a mystery to me as it
seems to be to everyone else.
In Cisco CCNA we do mostly the OSI model and only a little of the TCP/IP
model. I have found your references to the lowest layer of the TCP/IP model
(network access ) only handling layer 2 equivalent of the OSI which would
only deepen the mystery (see
http://www.tcpipguide.com/free/t_TCPIPArchitectureandtheTCPIPModel-2.htm )
I am wondering if the word model at the end of the KK statement had a
different purpose than the 4 layer TCP/IP model. Perhaps the intention was
to relate the physical layer of the OSI to the role of TCP ( layer 4 ) and
IP ( layer 3 ) layers still within the OSI model. Even then, I am not sure
there is a relationship between layer 1 and layers 3 and 4. The layered
model allows development and accelerates evolution, as the fabulous slide
show by John Bellavance outlines. Mark's slide show is also very helpful in
understanding the layers.
So, all in all I am in the same boat as you Russell.
Kevork Krozian
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Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Physical Layer
Having read around a bit, I was under the impression that
the TCP/IP did not address the physical layer (as in pulse
shaping, line voltages etc) at all, and that it assumed the
physical infrastructure was in place ready to do the bidding of
the TCP/IP protocol. My understanding is that the TCP/IP ends at
the Data link MAC protocols - or am I up the creek.
As usual, the VCAA has left it up the teaching staff to define the course
by consensus.
I assume Kevork has a definitive view????
Regards,
Russell Quinn
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From: Mark KELLY <kel at mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au>
Subject: [Year 12 SofDev] SD key knowledge
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*SD U3O1 KK04
Purposes and functions of the physical layer (Layer 1) of the OSI and the
relationship of the physical layer to the Transmission Control
Protocol/Internet Protocol model*
For quite some time now I've been avoiding this KK because I'd rather clean
a dead dog's ears than spend time on the OSI.
But in the end I had to find the cotton buds and get stuck in, and I think I
have a reasonable overview of the OSI and how TCP/IP maps to it. (even
produced a draft slideshow <http://www.vceit.com/slideshows/SD-OSI.ppt>).
But the second part of KK04 really has me baffled: *the relationship of the
physical layer to the Transmission Control Protocol/Internet Protocol model.
*
I know that TCP/IP's Network interface layer maps to OSI's physical layer
(and the data link layer), but for the life of me I can't see how it's any
more significant than any of OSI's or TCP/IP's other layers.
Can someone suggest why the relationship between the OSI physical layer and
TCP/IP is so significant?
Has this relationship been in the papers? Has this physical relationship
resulted in offspring?
Is Mr OSI going to be on Oprah... or the Jerry Springer show?
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Hello,
Does anybody know about this SwinGame?
Judee Forscutt-Hobbs
Lowanna College
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Subject: [Year 12 SofDev] SwinGame Games Design Competition - Registrations
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Dear teachers,
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