[Year 12 SofDev] Java databases help

Tue Jul 14 23:14:50 EST 2009

Java databases helpHi Robert and Allison,

 Not wanting to add to the stress levels the Study Design does require the same language for both units 3 and 4 as stated on the first page of the outline of Unit 3 Software Development:
" The programming language selected will be studied for both Unit 3 and Unit 4. The language must be a general-purpose language. " p 37

  As for using a database, the wording of the SAC states:

On completion of this unit the student should be able to apply the stages of software development to produce purpose-designed software that takes into account a networked information system objective and the needs of end-users."

As Adrian states is is neither necessary nor sufficient to have a database, rather to meet a networked information system objective which usually means the ability to share some aspect of the solution on a network. The reason for a network is management and sharing of resources. If you are writing software that takes a networked information system objective into account then I have understood that to mean sharing a resource on the network through or by the use of the software including the software itself.

 So, what is wrong with a simple text file that java saves to, which is accessible from any machine via a shared drive ? The writer of the software is taking into account the need to set the path of the text file that is created and written to in the right drive for access by a number of people on the network ie. meeting a networked information system objective.

 Therefore , any file writing onto a shared drive will get you out of trouble and present the path of least resistance without having to use a database or ODBC drivers.

Once again, which version and release of java are you using as I was using Borland JBuilder for several years at Yr 12 before moving to PHP , so I might be able to dig something up for you.

Best Wishes
Kevork Krozian
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Timmer-Arends 
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  Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 5:24 PM
  Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Java databases help

  Hello Allison

  further to Adrian's comments there is also no mandated language so are you stuck with Java for any particular reason. Is there another language you could switch to?

  Regards
  Robert T-A
  Brighton SC
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Adrian Janson 
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    Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 2:33 PM
    Subject: RE: [Year 12 SofDev] Java databases help

    Hi Allison,

    Firstly, there is no requirement that the SACs are delivered in any particular order, so if you feel that you would like to do U4O2 first to buy yourself some time, then by all means go ahead.  I usually like to leave U4O2 till the end as it is a good exam prep task and is also at the end of the SDLC - so it all works quite well from this perpective.

    In terms of the database, there is no requirement that U4O1 uses a database - only that it is a network type application.  It just so happens that using a database is quite a common way of creating a network application.  I am afraid I know nothing about Java - but thought I would at least email you with this advice - so hope this helps!

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    From: sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Allison KENINS
    Sent: Tuesday, 14 July 2009 1:44 PM
    To: sofdev at edulists.com.au
    Subject: [Year 12 SofDev] Java databases help

    Hi All

    I am struggling really bad with the programming for this course. I do not know a lot of Java and it scares me and I've had a look at the next SAC and realised that it was databases which I have no idea how to cope with in Java. 

    Are you able to do them in Access and then link to them??? If so how is this done?

    Any help is welcome as I am in over my head with this.

    Also, are we able to do the Unit 4 SAC 2 before the Unit 4 SAC 1?

    Thanks

    Allison Kenins 

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