[Year 12 SofDev] Design of User Interface

[Mark Kelly]

IMHO, the _creation_ of  high-quality user interface would certainly 
happen during development, but it would only be high-quality if it were 
designed to be so - during design phase.

Anyway, I think we're splitting hairs.  There are more important and 
basic things our darlings are likely to mess up completely.

I trust everyone is doing a quick review of two-dimensional arrays just 
in case the exam is going to again be - um - "challenging"  ;-)

Don Morelli Optus wrote:
> In the study design it talks about *characteristics of high-quality user 
> interface, *under key knowledge in the DEVELOPMENT phase of the SDLC and 
> not in the design phase. If the SD is the bible, then the implication is 
> that the correct answer would have to be the DEVELOPMENT phase of the 
> SDLC. I also agree that if we are talking about Stages Of Software 
> Development then the user interface would be developed in the Design 
> phase of this “cycle”. I agree that it makes sense to me that it should 
> be in the design phase of the SDLC as well as the design phase of the 
> Stages of SD, but what I think doesn’t count at this time-only at review 
> time.
> 
> The only concern that I would have about this is what the markers will 
> do at the end of the year. Will they accept both as there seems to be 
> some difference of opinion between teachers of the subject or will they 
> only accept the one answer-what the study design states.
> 
> My 2c worth
> 
> Don Morelli
> 
> Mt Lilydale Mercy College
> 
>  
> 
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> *From:* sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au 
> [mailto:sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au] *On Behalf Of *Adrian Janson
> *Sent:* Monday, 8 September 2008 12:43 PM
> *To:* 'Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List'
> *Subject:* RE: [Year 12 SofDev] Design of User Interface
> 
>  
> 
> Yes – agree.  But the question is talking about the SDLC (which is 
> looking at the whole system) and we are thinking purely about the 
> software (which is developed in the development phase of the SDLC).  OK 
> – I’ll be quiet now! J
> 
>  
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Adrian
> 
>  
> 
> *Adrian Janson, *
> 
> *VITTA President*
> 
> *Director of ICT, *
> 
> Melbourne High School,
> 
> Forrest Hill, South Yarra 3141 Australia.
> 
> Phone: 03 9826 0711 International: +61 3 9826 0711
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>  
> 
> *From:* sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au 
> [mailto:sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au] *On Behalf Of *Quentin Lydall
> *Sent:* Monday, 8 September 2008 12:35 PM
> *To:* Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List
> *Subject:* RE: [Year 12 SofDev] Design of User Interface
> 
>  
> 
> Well, my industry experience was that designs had to be produced and 
> signed off by users before budget was released for development work to 
> start.  That included interfaces, very definitely; they were picky about 
> how they would look and what functionality they would have! 
> 
>  
> 
> I still think it is in the Design stage!
> 
>  
> 
> Quentin Lydall
> 
> Head of ICT
> 
> Beaconhills College Valley Campus
> 
> 30-34 Toomuc Valley Road,
> 
> Pakenham
> 
> 3810
> 
> Phone:(03) 5945 0016
> 
> P/ //Please consider the environment before printing my email/
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>  
> 
> *From:* sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au 
> [mailto:sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au] *On Behalf Of *Adrian Janson
> *Sent:* Monday, 8 September 2008 11:50 AM
> *To:* 'Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List'
> *Subject:* RE: [Year 12 SofDev] Design of User Interface
> 
>  
> 
> Actually on second thoughts I can see why Development is the suggested 
> answer.  It is during the development phase that the software 
> development itself takes place – and the Design phase is really about 
> selecting hardware, software and determining features of the system 
> rather than getting stuck into details such as UI’s.  The design phase 
> might determine that a software package needs to be created and have 
> certain requirements – and some designs might be created which represent 
> what the UI should ideally look like.  But it is a lot like a concept 
> sketch of a new house versus a detailed plan of what each of the rooms 
> will look like.
> 
>  
> 
> I change my vote!
> 
>  
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Adrian
> 
>  
> 
> *Adrian Janson, *
> 
> *VITTA President*
> 
> *Director of ICT, *
> 
> Melbourne High School,
> 
> Forrest Hill, South Yarra 3141 Australia.
> 
> Phone: 03 9826 0711 International: +61 3 9826 0711
> 
> Fax: 03 9826 8767 International: +61 3 9826 8767
> 
> E-mail: janson.adrian.a at edumail.vic.gov.au 
> <mailto:janson.adrian.a at edumail.vic.gov.au>
> 
> Website: http://www.mhs.vic.edu.au
> 
> Blog: http://jansona.edublogs.org <http://jansona.edublogs.org/>
> 
>  
> 
> *From:* sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au 
> [mailto:sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au] *On Behalf Of *Adrian Janson
> *Sent:* Monday, 8 September 2008 11:34 AM
> *To:* 'Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List'
> *Subject:* RE: [Year 12 SofDev] Design of User Interface
> 
>  
> 
> Hi Quentin,
> 
>  
> 
> The key word would seem to be ‘designing’ so in this respect ‘Design’ 
> would be the most correct response.
> 
>  
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Adrian
> 
>  
> 
> *Adrian Janson, *
> 
> *VITTA President*
> 
> *Director of ICT, *
> 
> Melbourne High School,
> 
> Forrest Hill, South Yarra 3141 Australia.
> 
> Phone: 03 9826 0711 International: +61 3 9826 0711
> 
> Fax: 03 9826 8767 International: +61 3 9826 8767
> 
> E-mail: janson.adrian.a at edumail.vic.gov.au 
> <mailto:janson.adrian.a at edumail.vic.gov.au>
> 
> Website: http://www.mhs.vic.edu.au
> 
> Blog: http://jansona.edublogs.org <http://jansona.edublogs.org/>
> 
>  
> 
> *From:* sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au 
> [mailto:sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au] *On Behalf Of *Quentin Lydall
> *Sent:* Monday, 8 September 2008 11:02 AM
> *To:* Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List
> *Subject:* [Year 12 SofDev] Design of User Interface
> 
>  
> 
> Hi All,
> 
>  
> 
> Question 2 of Section B of VITTA  sample exam 3, 2007, (whew!) asks what 
> stage if the SDLC  designing the user interface takes place.  The 
> supplied answer is Development.  Can someone please help me explain to 
> my students why it does not happen during the design stage?
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks!!
> 
>  
> 
> Quentin Lydall
> 
> Head of ICT
> 
> Beaconhills College Valley Campus
> 
> 30-34 Toomuc Valley Road,
> 
> Pakenham
> 
> 3810
> 
> Phone:(03) 5945 0016
> 
> P/ //Please consider the environment before printing my email/
> 


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