[Year 12 SofDev] Proposed Sacs needing feedback ahead of audit

Thu May 22 09:58:42 EST 2008

Sorry about the spelling I was in a rush.
I will upload new SACs shortly.

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From: sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of Townsley, Andrew A
Sent: Thu 5/22/2008 8:52 AM
To: Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List
Subject: RE: [Year 12 SofDev] Proposed Sacs needing feedback ahead of audit

Hi,

What I prefer is some clarity about what they mean because thsi could mean a lot to a little i vb.net terms. Rading the study guide is what I recommend but understanding parts is another matter.

in unit 3 outcome 2, I am unsure of to what level you need to implement this?

*procedures and techniques for handling and managing fi les, including security, archiving, backing up and disposing of files;data types, data structures and data representation methods;

I have chnged my SACs and have written coding solutions and it is a lot of work for kids i admit .
Probably better to just upload my SACs again and see what people think.

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From: sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of WEIR Andrew
Sent: Wed 5/21/2008 1:52 PM
To: Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List
Subject: RE: [Year 12 SofDev] Proposed Sacs needing feedback ahead of audit

Andrew,
Marks earlier email was definitely much better articulated then mine.
I must admit i did the same thing. I read and re-read the tasks in the study design. However what i found helpful was the resources from M.Kelly and K. Kroznian. 
My students are using the Brees paint service task from the study design,
I will look at u402 later and will hopefully try to use the same company scenario but alter the programming task required. 

Andrew

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From: sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Townsley, Andrew A
Sent: Wednesday, 21 May 2008 1:17 PM
To: Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List
Subject: RE: [Year 12 SofDev] Proposed Sacs needing feedback ahead of audit

I can program myself but even I am confused about what they mean.

. What I want to know is to what level eg files means what and to what level?

This is why I modify currect SACs because that SAC is of a passable standard.
http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vce/studies/infotech/infotechsd.pdf

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From: sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of WEIR Andrew
Sent: Wed 5/21/2008 11:14 AM
To: Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List
Subject: RE: [Year 12 SofDev] Proposed Sacs needing feedback ahead of audit

>From memory the key word is u302 is a module where as u401 is a full program.
I.e. 
U3o2 could just add data to a file.
u401 needs to add edit and delete.

That's rather simplified version of the difference 
Andrew

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Information Technology Co-ordinator

Thomas Carr College

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From: sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Townsley, Andrew A
Sent: Wednesday, 21 May 2008 10:27 AM
To: Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List
Subject: RE: [Year 12 SofDev] Proposed Sacs needing feedback ahead of audit

Hi,

What is the main difference between unit3 outcome 2 and unit4 outcome 1.
On the study design they both claim to use files and portable device eg networked device. They look kind of similar. On outcome 2 unit 3 I am already using files, arrays,structures etc is this too much?

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From: sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of Kevork Krozian
Sent: Mon 5/19/2008 3:14 PM
To: sofdev at edulists.com.au
Subject: [Year 12 SofDev] Proposed Sacs needing feedback ahead of audit

Hi Folks,

Andrew Townsley has asked me to write to the list on his behalf.
 Andrew is teaching Software Development and will be audited this year.
He has written 2 programming SACs in need of feedback ahead of his audit. These SACs have been posted on Edulists in the password protected area http://www.edulists.com.au/sofdev/download .

 Andrew would dearly love you as a teacher of SodDev to give him any positive feedback you can directly to his address at townsley.andrew.a at edumail.vic.gov.au

He specifically wants to know :

a)   will it pass an audit  ?
b)   is it clear enough to understand ?

and he states, " I am betting I can't use all suggested improvements.".

All comments and suggestions are welcome and would be very helpful to him

With thanks

Kevork Krozian
IT Manager , Forest Hill College
k.krozian at fhc.vic.edu.au
http://www.fhc.vic.edu.au <http://www.fhc.vic.edu.au/> 
Mobile: 0419 356 034

>>> "Townsley, Andrew A" <townsley.andrew.a at edumail.vic.gov.au> 17/05/2008 10:14 am >>>
yes just announce to the lists and they can email feedback to me .
I know I can expect responses I dont agree with and some I do.
I just dont want to respond to every email I get due to time constraints and I wont overreact to comments I dont' agree with either.

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From: Kevork Krozian [mailto:Kroset at novell1.fhc.vic.edu.au]
Sent: Wed 5/14/2008 2:22 PM
To: Townsley, Andrew A
Subject: RE: sacs

Hi Andrew,

 Do you want me to announce it to the lists or do you want to do it (they are your sacs ) ?

Regards

Kevork Krozian
IT Manager , Forest Hill College
k.krozian at fhc.vic.edu.au
http://www.fhc.vic.edu.au <http://www.fhc.vic.edu.au/> 
Mobile: 0419 356 034

>>> "Townsley, Andrew A" <townsley.andrew.a at edumail.vic.gov.au> 14/05/2008 1:31 pm >>>
Hi,

Yes feedback is fine. I just need to know
a)will it pass an audit
b) is it clear enough to understand.

PS I am betting I can't use all suggested improvements.

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From: Kevork Krozian [mailto:Kroset at novell1.fhc.vic.edu.au]
Sent: Wed 5/14/2008 10:04 AM
To: Townsley, Andrew A
Subject: Re: sacs

Hi Andrew,

 Your proposed SACs are posted on edulists under SofDev , SACs which is password protected ( passwords can be applied for from the edulists home page ).
Do you want to invite feedback or would you like me to ask subscribers to give you feedback on your SACs ?

Regards

Kevork

>>> "Townsley, Andrew A" <townsley.andrew.a at edumail.vic.gov.au> 13/05/2008 11:39 am >>>
Hi,

You asked for my 2 sacs to help me out.

Andrew Townsley

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