[Year 12 SofDev] Industry practice - tertiary links

Wed Apr 16 15:48:34 EST 2008

I welcome the discussion, and once the review process revs up you will
have plenty of opportunities to contribute your ideas and respond to
others.

Regards
Paula

Paula Christophersen
ICT Curriculum Manager
VCAA
41 St Andrews Place
EAST MELBOURNE 3002
(03) 9651 4378

-----Original Message-----
From: sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au
[mailto:sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Mark Kelly
Sent: Wednesday, 16 April 2008 3:28 PM
To: Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Industry practice - tertiary links

Remember, all, that Paula is in the mood for reviewing the study design 
if people want to...

Adrian Janson wrote:
> Hi Steven,
> 
> I think that links between the tertiary and secondary sectors need to
become
> stronger for us to both move forward - and it would be great to have
an
> extended dialogue with you about this when the time is right (which
may be
> soon).  So if you are keen to help us onto the right track in terms of
> industry standard practice - then it would be great to chat!
> 
> For now however, I think it is important not to confuse those working
with
> and coming to terms with the current study design.  I have renamed
this
> thread so that those who wish to ignore - simply can.  The current
study
> design is what is important for the 'right now'.
> 
> Cheers,
> Adrian
>  
> Adrian Janson, 
> VITTA President
> Director of ICT, 
> Melbourne High School, 
> Forrest Hill, South Yarra 3141 Australia.
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> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au
[mailto:sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au]
> On Behalf Of Steven Bird
> Sent: Wednesday, 16 April 2008 11:04 AM
> To: Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Resource flows in a DFD
> 
> On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 10:40 AM, Mark Kelly
<kel at mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au>
> wrote:
>>  That's what concerns me.  We are marking things right or wrong
according
> to
>> a set of sometimes-arbitrary rules and definitions that sometimes
only
> apply
>> in our little world of VCE theory.  An outsider in The Real World
could
> well
>> argue that our answers are either moot or just plain wrong according
to
> best
>> practice.
>>
>>  Our definition of the SDLC, for example, is just one of many, yet we
ask
>> very specific questions about it that can rule all other SDLC
variants
>> incorrect.
> 
> For effective assessment, I think we need to focus on knowledge and
> skills that are relevant and well-codified.  As a body of knowledge, I
> don't think the SDLC scores very highly on either measure.  There are
> many other practical and interesting topics that could be covered.
> 
> A possible starting point is to consider the relationship between the
> VCE and university curricula.  From where I stand, it seems very odd
> that VCE would include aspects of our third year subjects as they were
> taught 10-20 years ago.  Could we find ways to migrate our first-year
> curriculum into VCE/VELS?
> 
> By the way, here is what Melbourne University does in first year IT,
> as of 2008:  http://informatics.unimelb.edu.au/
> I guess I might have some of your 2007 students.  :)
> 
> Steven Bird
> http://www.csse.unimelb.edu.au/~sb/
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