[Year 12 SofDev] Industry practice - tertiary links

[Mark Kelly]

Remember, all, that Paula is in the mood for reviewing the study design 
if people want to...

Adrian Janson wrote:
> Hi Steven,
> 
> I think that links between the tertiary and secondary sectors need to become
> stronger for us to both move forward - and it would be great to have an
> extended dialogue with you about this when the time is right (which may be
> soon).  So if you are keen to help us onto the right track in terms of
> industry standard practice - then it would be great to chat!
> 
> For now however, I think it is important not to confuse those working with
> and coming to terms with the current study design.  I have renamed this
> thread so that those who wish to ignore - simply can.  The current study
> design is what is important for the 'right now'.
> 
> Cheers,
> Adrian
>  
> Adrian Janson, 
> VITTA President
> Director of ICT, 
> Melbourne High School, 
> Forrest Hill, South Yarra 3141 Australia.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au]
> On Behalf Of Steven Bird
> Sent: Wednesday, 16 April 2008 11:04 AM
> To: Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Resource flows in a DFD
> 
> On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 10:40 AM, Mark Kelly <kel at mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au>
> wrote:
>>  That's what concerns me.  We are marking things right or wrong according
> to
>> a set of sometimes-arbitrary rules and definitions that sometimes only
> apply
>> in our little world of VCE theory.  An outsider in The Real World could
> well
>> argue that our answers are either moot or just plain wrong according to
> best
>> practice.
>>
>>  Our definition of the SDLC, for example, is just one of many, yet we ask
>> very specific questions about it that can rule all other SDLC variants
>> incorrect.
> 
> For effective assessment, I think we need to focus on knowledge and
> skills that are relevant and well-codified.  As a body of knowledge, I
> don't think the SDLC scores very highly on either measure.  There are
> many other practical and interesting topics that could be covered.
> 
> A possible starting point is to consider the relationship between the
> VCE and university curricula.  From where I stand, it seems very odd
> that VCE would include aspects of our third year subjects as they were
> taught 10-20 years ago.  Could we find ways to migrate our first-year
> curriculum into VCE/VELS?
> 
> By the way, here is what Melbourne University does in first year IT,
> as of 2008:  http://informatics.unimelb.edu.au/
> I guess I might have some of your 2007 students.  :)
> 
> Steven Bird
> http://www.csse.unimelb.edu.au/~sb/
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