[Year 12 SofDev] Pondering SD U3O2

Wed Feb 14 23:45:40 EST 2007

There are many ethical dilemmas with mobile phones as well as legal ones eg
. you add a person's phone number to your contact list - should you tell 
them you stored that data/
. you want a phone number and know your partner/friend/workmate has it 
stored in their mobile phone which is sitting on their desk. Dare you 
open Contacts?
. a friend sends you an email with a photo or video clip to your mobile 
phone and you upload it to YouTube or similar - was it a private message?
. someone has a private phone number (ie not listed in the phone book) 
but you have it on your mobile phone. Is it OK to share it with a friend?
. you find a mobile phone. Is it OK to search the Contacts list?

Charmaine Taylor
Sunbury Downs College

David Dawson wrote:

>My Motorola A1000 mobile phone runs HTML and allows point and click on
>buttons etc.. :-) hence PHP apps run perfectly - I can even do my
>absentees on it. I know of at least 10 other phones now available that
>do the same.
>Surely no one will be disadvantaged if their apps actually run? After
>all it says "coding and debugging" in the assessment doc. But the
>"ethical dilemma" has me wondering. How would a calculator or contacts
>list match this unless they design an interface that is very different
>to what they have seen before, or perhaps login to avoid privacy issues?
>David D
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au
>[mailto:sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Kevork Krozian
>Sent: Wednesday, 14 February 2007 11:24 AM
>To: sofdev at edulists.com.au
>Subject: Fwd: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Pondering SD U3O2
>
>  Hi Robert and Adrian and Claudia and Mark and everyone else,
>
> I echo Mark's sentiments in firstly congratulating the steering group
>for writing a great study design.
>
>  I do wish to take up the discussion however just to understand what is
>meant by modelling a solution for a mobile device but not running it.
>
>   [ Recall the early days of web authoring . Okay kids, we're setting
>up a web site for your SAC, but it will never be seen on the web and it
>doesn't have to work either , just designed or modelled.... !! ]
>   
>   I am not sure if I am a little naive here , but what is so special
>about "modelling" a program to run on a mobile device ?
>What skill set is required to model this task apart from understanding
>that the mobile device has a smaller screen area ?
>What other constraints can a programmer learn/implement/master - if they
>don't have to make the program run -  apart from smaller font size ?
>
>  Yes, if you run Visual Studio.NET 2005 you can create a point and
>click mobile application.
>So, without demeaning the students effort what are we assessing ? That
>they know to select mobile application instead of a standard application
>on the wizard ?
>
>Let's look at a mobile phone. It runs a web page as a wml ( a relative
>of html ) file. It can load a html page but buttons for example will not
>work. 
>Once upon a time images had to be wbmp ( wireless bitmap ) and now most
>mobile phones will load jpg and other standard image types. Therefore,
>if a student is not required to run the program or web page on a mobile
>device, what skill set will he or she demonstrate to be assessed in this
>outcome ? 
>That his fonts have to be smaller and fit a screen 3 cm x 4 cm ?  .... 
>anything else ? colour constraints don't need to be considered. Any data
>that can be entered by a keyboard can be entered by the mobile device,
>security is not something a programmer has to worry about when writing
>the application as it is encrypted at a different layer eg. running a
>web page over https:// as opposed to http:// where port 443 is used to
>provide encryption. This happens at many layers ( layer 4 ) below the
>application.
>
> So, if a programmer does not have to run or even write the program,
>presumably so he/she can avoid the depth of technical knowledge required
>to make it work, how can they design a solution in a meaningful way ?
>Where is testing to occur ? Are we avoiding more than half of the stages
>of the PDLC ?
>
>  I am the first to resist torturing teachers for the sake of looking
>like we're doing something current, innovative and reflecting current
>trends in technology and society.
>However, to have something that does not have to work and even not have
>to be written will cause more stress than having some concrete
>guidelines and examples ( working preferably ) of what is acceptable.
>
>Best wishes
>
>Kevork Krozian
>Mailing List Creator and Administrator
>kevork at edulists.com.au
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>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Timmer-Arends" <timmer at melbpc.org.au>
>To: "Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List" 
><sofdev at edulists.com.au>
>Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 6:14 PM
>Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Pondering SD U3O2
>
>
>  
>
>>Hello Mark
>>
>>I think Adrain and Claudia have the right interpretation. The 
>>constraint of producing a software module suitable for implementation 
>>on a portable computing device is intended as a constraint on the user
>>    
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>>interface (and perhaps other bits as listed by Claudia and Adrian) NOT
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>  
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>>on the type of program to be written or on the programming language 
>>used. And it is this latter point that I think Adrian is trying to 
>>make when he writes "The program does not have to be implemented - 
>>just modeled."  - students might be required to write a game program 
>>that can be used on, say, a Palm Pilot. Instead of trying to come to 
>>grips with something like C as well as adapting it to PalmOS, they 
>>might write the program using VB; it would/should have the 'look and 
>>feel' of the Palm version but under the covers its just plain old VB -
>>    
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>hence it is a 'model'.
>  
>
>>Possibly a little dated,
>>http://goanna.cs.rmit.edu.au/~winikoff/palm/dev.html contains a list 
>>of PalmPilot SDKs (Software Development Kits) and some discussion 
>>which could be of interest.
>>
>>Regards
>>Robert T-A
>>Brighton SC
>>
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