[Year 12 SofDev] Internet Costs at School
Royce Williams
Royce.Williams at billanook.vic.edu.au
Tue Aug 28 09:58:12 EST 2007
i think you need to define market rates ...the amount you pay
commercially is much higher than that for a home user ..so you cant
compare that
(you are connecting a large network not just one kid playing AA).
the costs people (education dept / Catholic) pay for VicOne type access
is also much lower that I have to pay as a "private" school'
IIRC the approved internet access is so that you can "safely" connect to
VicOne
Royce Williams
Manager Information Technology
Billanook College
197-199 Cardigan Rd
Mooroolbark 3138
Victoria Australia
Tel: 61-3-9725 5388; Fax: 61-3-9725 8556
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[mailto:sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Adam Barbary
Sent: Saturday, 25 August 2007 9:06 AM
To: Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List
Subject: RE: [Year 12 SofDev] Internet Costs at School
I think the real question is why do schools have to pay for
inflated "approved" Internet access which is above market rates?
Adam Barbary
Viewbank College
On Sat, 2007-08-25 at 08:50 +1000, Stephen Digby wrote:
What !!!!!
Kevork, how come you are allowed to get internet access
at public prices when the rest of us have to pay for one of the
exorbitant
"approved" provider deals ????
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[mailto:sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Kevork Krozian
Sent: Friday, 24 August 2007 3:49 PM
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Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Internet Costs at School
Hi Neil,
We have an Optus cable account ( not sure if they are
still available to schools ...we were a trial school back in 1995 ) at
20 GB
peak ( 12 noon to 12 midnight ) and 24 GB off peak ( 12
midnight to 12 noon) at $330 per month < $4K per year. That works out
at
0.75 c per MB.
Students get 100 MB per month each and occasionally are
topped up. There is no cost recovery imposed on the students with
internet
access.
We give $20 print credit per semester which does
require an actual payment to top up if breached.
Regards
Kevork
>>> "Neil Wallace" <neil at norwood.vic.edu.au> 24/08/2007
2:48 pm >>>
Our costs have gone nuts this month too - again,
anonymous proxies.
Russell - who is your provider, and what do they charge
you per meg? We are with SINA and the schools cops 9c per meg traffic
charge. I budget about $15000 traffic charge per year,
and often exceed this (1500 per month, exc January, most of holidays and
a
lot of December).
We use ShapeShifter on a Novell BorderManager to
throttle our port 80 bandwidth but still get excessive charges through
peer to peer
and streams that are not properly disconnected. Our ISP
does the accounting and I am not convinced that their accounting is
accurate.
Can anyone else share their costs management strategy,
and perhaps the way they charge students?
Regards
Neil Wallace
Norwood Secondary College
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From: sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au
[mailto:sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au]
On Behalf Of Russell Curr
Sent: Friday, 24 August 2007 2:12 PM
To: sofdev at edulists.com.au
Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] proxy servers
James
we use a combination of tools:
Papercut to control web access - works very well and we
give all students 25 meg per week.
Squid to block access to a list of sites SARG to
randomly check who is using the latest proxy unblocker sites
If students do manage to bypass Squid via proxy
unblocker, then they can only access up to their credit limit anyway.
cheers
Russell
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Russell Curr
Network Manager
Avila College
Ph: 9831-9645
Fax: 03-9888-1202
email: russell at avila.vic.edu.au
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>>> jgy at sthelena.vic.edu.au 08/24/07 10:14 am >>>
Hi all,
sorry for the cross posts.
Firstly, thanks to all the people who replied to my
query last week about Value Adding through VB programming, it was most
helpful.
I have another problem and would appreciate any advice.
lately, we have had a spate of students using proxy servers to bypass
the
school's internet restrictions. Word is spreading that
this can be done amongst the students and it has proved impossible to
block
all sites that provide proxy access.
At the moment we cancel internet access to those
students we catch but we only catch them by fluke and we don't want to
end up
banning large number of students from the internet but
if we let the students know these sites exist it will advertise the fact
and
more will use them.
Has your school had these problems and does anyone have
some advice on what to do?
Thanking you in advance
James Gibney
ICT Coordinator
St Helena Secondary College
Wallowa Rd
Eltham Nth 3095
Ph 03 94388500
Fax 03 94388555
email: jgy at sthelena.vic.edu.au
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