[Philosophy] Two questions

Sat May 27 13:12:59 EST 2006

Hi Lyn,
I would love a copy of the project, thankyou very much. I never say no
to any offer of help.
Thanks again and have a "good" time in Japan.
Ian.

Ian Wilmoth
ian at ianwilmoth.com
0407 819177

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Sorry, Richard,
Must disagree with the "Mickey Mouse" comment.  My students have just
completed a four-part project (including an oral presentation) on a
tradition or religion of their choice, comparing it to one ancient and
one modern author from Unit 3. They need to be able to do this for SAC
3; and some questions in Section B of the exam allow for critiques of
the authors on the course by referring to another religion or tradition
for substantiation.  I did Buddhism with the whole class (powerpoint
presentation and visit after school - non-compulsory - to a buddhist
temple), then they all explored their own.  According to the study
design, it doesn't have to be an ancient tradition.  I've had everything
from Druids to Satanists to ISKON to Mormons.  I've done this for the
past 3 years and all classes report it is the best thing in the Unit 3
course as it allows them to consolidate their knowledge of the authors
by doing a practical comparison with the scope to explore their own
interests,
  beliefs, values and morals - actually DO some philosophy - surely
that's a "good" thing? (Pardon the pun).  
Ian, if you would like a copy of the project, let me know and I'll email
it to you.  
BTW, for those who know me, I will be taking leave for Terms 3 and 4 and
all of next year to teach in Japan.  Thanks for all your advice over the
last few years.  I will miss teaching philosophy, but I need a new
challenge.  Getting married, too.  (That's 2 new challenges!)
Best of luck with Unit 4,
Lyn. Renwood

"Richard O'Donovan" <rodonovan at fhs.vic.edu.au> on Fri, 26 May 2006
15:14:23 +1000 wrote:
> Hi Ian,
>  
> I'm no Greek scholar, but as for your second question my understanding
is that the Ancient Greek view changed with time.  Originally Hades (the
God) took possession of all souls once they departed here and crossed
the River Styxx into the Underworld.  There were different views of what
this was like, but one of the more common beliefs involved a kind of
layover of a 1000 years or so before the soul took another body -
reincarnation in other words.  Later - and what carried over into the
Roman empire I believe - there was the notion of the Elyssian fields
where 'good' souls went, while the 'bad' souls were stuck with Hades in
the Underworld and tormented - hence our modern conception of Hades as
Hell.
>  
> As for your first question, the practicalities of writing exam
questions to cover all of the possible traditions explored across the
state means that there aren't any (exam questions that is).  This is one
of the Mickey Mouse aspects of the course in my view, and seems to be an
area dealt with in a fairly minimalist way by teachers at various
schools.  So I wouldn't put too much energy into it if I were you!
>  
> Hope that helps a little.
>  
> Richard
> 
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> From: philosophy-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of Ian Wilmoth
> Sent: Fri 26-May-06 12:32 PM
> To: philosophy at edulists.com.au
> Subject: [Philosophy] Two questions
> 
> 
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> Couple of questions about Units 3 & 4 Philosophy:
> 
> 1. Other ancient traditions are meant to be part of the course, yet I
can't see that they have come up directly in past exams. Do other
teachers cover this area in much detail and, if so, what texts do you
use? And while ancient traditions are referred to as part of Unit 3 and
the Good Life, they could equally be relevant to Unit 4 in relation to
dualism.  Should they be discussed in relation to both?
> 
> 2. In relation to Mind, Body and Soul, what do the Greeks say about
where the soul goes to after death? Does it go first to Hades, then to
the next world, and then back again?  If it comes back again, where does
it come back to and why?
> 
> Any help on either of these questions would help me, a first year
teacher, who is teaching outside my methods on this one.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Ian.
> 
> 
> Ian Wilmoth
> 
> ian at ianwilmoth.com
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