[Philosophy] Two questions

[Richard O'Donovan]

Congratulations on the marriage and Japanese trip Lyn!!  I'll pop your project on the website if you like... I'm sure Ian wont be the only one keen to see it, sounds like you're doing some very impressive things.  
 
Thanks Lyn,
 
Richard

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Sent: Fri 26-May-06 4:11 PM
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Sorry, Richard,
Must disagree with the "Mickey Mouse" comment.  My students have just completed a four-part project (including an oral presentation) on a tradition or religion of their choice, comparing it to one ancient and one modern author from Unit 3. They need to be able to do this for SAC 3; and some questions in Section B of the exam allow for critiques of the authors on the course by referring to another religion or tradition for substantiation.  I did Buddhism with the whole class (powerpoint presentation and visit after school - non-compulsory - to a buddhist temple), then they all explored their own.  According to the study design, it doesn't have to be an ancient tradition.  I've had everything from Druids to Satanists to ISKON to Mormons.  I've done this for the past 3 years and all classes report it is the best thing in the Unit 3 course as it allows them to consolidate their knowledge of the authors by doing a practical comparison with the scope to explore their own interests,
  beliefs, values and morals - actually DO some philosophy - surely that's a "good" thing? (Pardon the pun). 
Ian, if you would like a copy of the project, let me know and I'll email it to you. 
BTW, for those who know me, I will be taking leave for Terms 3 and 4 and all of next year to teach in Japan.  Thanks for all your advice over the last few years.  I will miss teaching philosophy, but I need a new challenge.  Getting married, too.  (That's 2 new challenges!)
Best of luck with Unit 4,
Lyn. Renwood

"Richard O'Donovan" <rodonovan at fhs.vic.edu.au> on Fri, 26 May 2006 15:14:23 +1000 wrote:
> Hi Ian,
> 
> I'm no Greek scholar, but as for your second question my understanding is that the Ancient Greek view changed with time.  Originally Hades (the God) took possession of all souls once they departed here and crossed the River Styxx into the Underworld.  There were different views of what this was like, but one of the more common beliefs involved a kind of layover of a 1000 years or so before the soul took another body - reincarnation in other words.  Later - and what carried over into the Roman empire I believe - there was the notion of the Elyssian fields where 'good' souls went, while the 'bad' souls were stuck with Hades in the Underworld and tormented - hence our modern conception of Hades as Hell.
> 
> As for your first question, the practicalities of writing exam questions to cover all of the possible traditions explored across the state means that there aren't any (exam questions that is).  This is one of the Mickey Mouse aspects of the course in my view, and seems to be an area dealt with in a fairly minimalist way by teachers at various schools.  So I wouldn't put too much energy into it if I were you!
> 
> Hope that helps a little.
> 
> Richard
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> Subject: [Philosophy] Two questions
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> Hi All,
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> Couple of questions about Units 3 & 4 Philosophy:
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> 1. Other ancient traditions are meant to be part of the course, yet I can't see that they have come up directly in past exams. Do other teachers cover this area in much detail and, if so, what texts do you use? And while ancient traditions are referred to as part of Unit 3 and the Good Life, they could equally be relevant to Unit 4 in relation to dualism.  Should they be discussed in relation to both?
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> 2. In relation to Mind, Body and Soul, what do the Greeks say about where the soul goes to after death? Does it go first to Hades, then to the next world, and then back again?  If it comes back again, where does it come back to and why?
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> Any help on either of these questions would help me, a first year teacher, who is teaching outside my methods on this one.
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> Cheers,
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> Ian.
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> Ian Wilmoth
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