[Opensource] Re: opensource Digest, Vol 36, Issue 4

Tue Oct 13 06:45:12 EST 2009

How did you get the wireless working. I have had Ubuntu on a dual boot for
over 12 months and that has been my biggest problem. I found some
instructions on the Internet but they didn't work.

Karen Webster
IT Teacher
Alexandra SC

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>   1. Getting rid of Windows on your R61 Lenovo (Brett Groves)
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>   3. Re: Getting rid of Windows on your R61 Lenovo (Adam Barbary)
>   4. Re: virtualbox etc (Roland Gesthuizen)
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> Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 16:08:16 +1100
> From: Brett Groves <groves.brett.g at edumail.vic.gov.au>
> Subject: [Opensource] Getting rid of Windows on your R61 Lenovo
> To: Open Source Software Mailing List <opensource at edulists.com.au>
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> Greetings all,
>
> Luckily I'm already bald or I would have torn out any hair left since I
> got my new R61 Lenovo a few months ago and have had to struggle with the
> joys of Vista. Blue screens, slow, "Windows has detected the cursor has
> moved, would you like to restart now" type messages.....I had had
> enough. So I set aside some time over the hols to look at Ubuntu.
>
> Tried the alpha version of the new 9.10 release and it was lovely and
> very easy to configure but doesnt yet support virtualbox (more on that
> in moment).
>
> I loaded as a final option instead version 9.04. I actually really
> didn't need to set aside much time at all. It was unbelievably easy to
> configure for EduPaSS wireless, the network share drives are
> ridiculously simple to map, in fact the whole process has been quite
> pain free...a revelation!
>
> So now my laptop runs at least twice as fast, never blue screens hasn't
> crashed yet, and installing programs like Rolands suggestion of Kdenlive
> was trivially easy.
>
> I also installed a program called virtualbox. This is a very nifty piece
> of software (IT teachers take note if you want to build disposable
> servers with your students, much easier than VMware for a pseudo IT
> teacher like me) that allows you to install a 'virtual' copy of Windows.
> Windows and Ubuntu can be seamlessly integrated using an add on called
> guest additions. So now I have XP and Ubuntu running side by side for
> those programs like Markbook, FirstClass, VBnet etc that don't have a
> Linux version but are needed for the day to day life of a teacher.
>
> The one and only grumble is I have had little trouble getting Flash to
> work in Firefox, handy for youtube, teachertube etc. I am confident
> though this can be sorted or if not I know it works out of the box on
> Ubuntu 9.10 which is available as general release in 17 days.
>
> Overall I'm incredibly happy with the project and the change, so if you
> are as frustrated with MS as I have been don't just put up with it,
> there are many better alternatives out there and I expect that Ubuntu is
> just one possibility.
>
> If anyone would like assistance in making the switch just drop me an
> email, would be very happy to help.
>
> Brett Groves - ICT Coordinator - Croydon Secondary College
>
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> Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 16:44:57 +1100 (EST)
> From: "Dr Paul Chandler" <paul.chandler at une.edu.au>
> Subject: Re: [Opensource] virtualbox etc
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> Hi all,
>
> Just a followup to Brett's post
>
> > I also installed a program called virtualbox. This is a very nifty piece
> > of software (IT teachers take note if you want to build disposable
> > servers with your students, much easier than VMware for a pseudo IT
> > teacher like me) that allows you to install a 'virtual' copy of Windows.
>
> I'd played around with virtualbox-like product called qemu a while back,
> and have recently got into it again.  Happily have a linux server running
> 'inside' my WinXP box.  Would be very good for a 'disposable server'.
>
> My own kids were also disappointed recently when their machine (running
> win95!) was replaced with a more modern creature - their favourite game
> wouldn't run (who else remembers 'gizmos and gadgets'?)  Enter qemu - a
> 'virtual copy' of win95 is running under XP.  Not many times you'd want to
> do that, admittedly, but it solved the problem of the disgruntled game
> players.  Not all that easy to set up (the win95 install), but once done,
> works like a charm.
>
> If you want any details, please email.
>
> Cheers,
>
> --
> Dr Paul Chandler
> Research Fellow
> 'Multimedia grammatical design and authoring pedagogy' (Kahootz) project,
> School of Education, University of New England
>
> located at Australian Children's Television Foundation
> 145 Smith Street, Fitzroy, Melbourne, 3065
> e-mail: paul.chandler at une.edu.au
> Ph: 0400 198 187
> Fax: (03) 9419 0660
> Skype: paul.d.chandler
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>
>
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>
> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 18:17:47 +1100
> From: Adam Barbary <home at adambarbary.com>
> Subject: Re: [Opensource] Getting rid of Windows on your R61 Lenovo
> To: Open Source Software Mailing List <opensource at edulists.com.au>
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> Hi Brett,
>
> Sounds like you are really progressing well with Linux. You don't
> mention if you are using 32 or 64 bit Ubuntu, but this will determine
> how hard it is to get Flash working. Anyway, I think the first place
> you should start is here....
>
> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Jaunty
>
> Cheers,
>
> Adam Barbary
> LMS Support
> University of Ballarat
>
> On 12/10/2009, at 4:08 PM, Brett Groves wrote:
>
> > Greetings all,
> >
> > Luckily I'm already bald or I would have torn out any hair left
> > since I got my new R61 Lenovo a few months ago and have had to
> > struggle with the joys of Vista. Blue screens, slow, "Windows has
> > detected the cursor has moved, would you like to restart now" type
> > messages.....I had had enough. So I set aside some time over the
> > hols to look at Ubuntu.
> >
> > Tried the alpha version of the new 9.10 release and it was lovely
> > and very easy to configure but doesnt yet support virtualbox (more
> > on that in moment).
> >
> > I loaded as a final option instead version 9.04. I actually really
> > didn't need to set aside much time at all. It was unbelievably easy
> > to configure for EduPaSS wireless, the network share drives are
> > ridiculously simple to map, in fact the whole process has been quite
> > pain free...a revelation!
> >
> > So now my laptop runs at least twice as fast, never blue screens
> > hasn't crashed yet, and installing programs like Rolands suggestion
> > of Kdenlive was trivially easy.
> >
> > I also installed a program called virtualbox. This is a very nifty
> > piece of software (IT teachers take note if you want to build
> > disposable servers with your students, much easier than VMware for a
> > pseudo IT teacher like me) that allows you to install a 'virtual'
> > copy of Windows. Windows and Ubuntu can be seamlessly integrated
> > using an add on called guest additions. So now I have XP and Ubuntu
> > running side by side for those programs like Markbook, FirstClass,
> > VBnet etc that don't have a Linux version but are needed for the day
> > to day life of a teacher.
> >
> > The one and only grumble is I have had little trouble getting Flash
> > to work in Firefox, handy for youtube, teachertube etc. I am
> > confident though this can be sorted or if not I know it works out of
> > the box on Ubuntu 9.10 which is available as general release in 17
> > days.
> >
> > Overall I'm incredibly happy with the project and the change, so if
> > you are as frustrated with MS as I have been don't just put up with
> > it, there are many better alternatives out there and I expect that
> > Ubuntu is just one possibility.
> >
> > If anyone would like assistance in making the switch just drop me an
> > email, would be very happy to help.
> >
> > Brett Groves - ICT Coordinator - Croydon Secondary College
> >
> > Important - This email and any attachments may be confidential. If
> > received in error, please contact us and delete all copies. Before
> > opening or using attachments check them for viruses and defects.
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> > Development.
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> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 21:35:23 +1100
> From: Roland Gesthuizen <rgesthuizen at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Opensource] virtualbox etc
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> Yes, visualization is fun and easy to do.
>
> Just talked a friend through creating an Ubuntu and Windows2000 server
> virtual machines with Virtual box on his 'upgraded' Vista system so he can
> play some of his old games. Once he got his head around how it works he is
> now thinking of rolling back the core OS to WinXP and create a Vista VM to
> work with.
>
> Regards Roland
>
> 2009/10/12 Dr Paul Chandler <paul.chandler at une.edu.au>
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Just a followup to Brett's post
> >
> > > I also installed a program called virtualbox. This is a very nifty
> piece
> > > of software (IT teachers take note if you want to build disposable
> > > servers with your students, much easier than VMware for a pseudo IT
> > > teacher like me) that allows you to install a 'virtual' copy of
> Windows.
> >
> > I'd played around with virtualbox-like product called qemu a while back,
> > and have recently got into it again.  Happily have a linux server running
> > 'inside' my WinXP box.  Would be very good for a 'disposable server'.
> >
> > My own kids were also disappointed recently when their machine (running
> > win95!) was replaced with a more modern creature - their favourite game
> > wouldn't run (who else remembers 'gizmos and gadgets'?)  Enter qemu - a
> > 'virtual copy' of win95 is running under XP.  Not many times you'd want
> to
> > do that, admittedly, but it solved the problem of the disgruntled game
> > players.  Not all that easy to set up (the win95 install), but once done,
> > works like a charm.
> >
> > If you want any details, please email.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > --
> > Dr Paul Chandler
> > Research Fellow
> > 'Multimedia grammatical design and authoring pedagogy' (Kahootz) project,
> > School of Education, University of New England
> >
> > located at Australian Children's Television Foundation
> > 145 Smith Street, Fitzroy, Melbourne, 3065
> > e-mail: paul.chandler at une.edu.au
> > Ph: 0400 198 187
> > Fax: (03) 9419 0660
> > Skype: paul.d.chandler
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> >
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> > Association Inc
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Roland Gesthuizen - ICT Coordinator - Westall Secondary College
> http://www.westallsc.vic.edu.au
>
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