[Offtopic] Re: [Year 12 SofDev] cases21

[Anton Yoxon]

Thank you Cameron, I really appreciate your reply.  The system we have is web
based and good but prone to data entry errors by the coordinators and so they
shift the blame the to the roll system.  This is the reason for the Principal
wanting to change to cases21.  the replies so for insist that to move to
Cases21 would be a real bad move.

Thanks again
cheers
anton



On Tue, 15 May 2007 08:36:05 +1000, Cameron Bell wrote
> We have moved to Daymap
> http://www.daymap.net/index.htm
> The driving reason was to provide yet another critical app other 
> than reports that would force staff to use their laptops in class. 
> It provides period by period attendance, staff notes, class notes 
> etc etc. We are using a stripped down version, the full version is a 
> LMS but we are only using the attendance module. It is updated daily 
> from First class so that all the rolls are accurate. The 
> introduction saw an absolute mountain of absences (which the old 
> system failed to pickup - mainly due to teachers forgetting to 
> submit the "discrepencies" between the official morning roll and 
> their class roll), but once the students found that they were now 
> being picked up every period, the list  has dropped to pretty much 
> genuine absences. Coordinators love it, office staff took some 
> getting used to it, but agree its now no more or no less work on 
> their behalf. Some of this is due to a current mix of old and new 
> practices that have to be ironed out to take full advantage of the system.
> Problem: It exports to CASES21, but once it is in there, you can 
> only see the data but not do anything with it. The new student at 
> risk initiative is problematic as Daymap only exports absences, not 
> full attendance. This is being fixed by the makers at the moment. Cheers
> Cameron
> 
> Kevork Krozian wrote:
> > Hi Anton,
> >
> >  Just shifting this to the offtopic list as I reply.
> >
> >  We moved to A plus which is linked to First Class the time tabling
> > program simply to reduce the number of databases in the school ( as well
> > as provide sufficient functionality ). The issue with Cases 21 is, is
> > there an interface for staff to use the roll marking part of it easily  
> > ? Secondly, it has to be accessed only from the Admin network. Are there
> > enough machines in enough locations for this ? You can kiss goodbye to
> > remote access for a start.
> >
> >  By releasing staff from these two limitations, a nice web based all
> > permeating solution can be implemented where staff can not only mark
> > rolls from any machine on the web anywhere including at home, but also
> > look up timetables for students and teachers amongst other things such
> > as attendance history etc.
> > The Electronic Roll Marking project is documented at
> > http://www.sofweb.vic.edu.au/wellbeing/welfare/elect_roll.htm
> > and includes Guidelines for Vendors creating roll marking products.
> >
> > Good luck
> > Kevork
> >
> >
> >   
> >>>> kel at mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au 14/05/2007 1:58 pm >>>
> >>>>         
> > Does _anyone_ use CASES21 for _anything_ they don't _have_ to?
> >
> > It's a nasty, nasty beast.
> >
> > If you want an attendance system, consider IDattend.
> >
> > www.kbsoft.com.au/IDAttend.htm 
> >
> > We use it.  It's great.
> >
> > MArk
> >
> > Anton Yoxon wrote:
> >   
> >> Hi everyone, the Principal at my school has asked me about changing
> >>     
> > the 
> >   
> >> schools rolls system to cases21.  Our present system is web based
> >>     
> > using 
> >   
> >> oracle and allows heaps of functions for teachers, coordinators admin
> >>     
> > etc.  
> >   
> >> Can anyone assist me as to whether this would be a good thing or not.
> >>     
> >  
> >   
> >> Presently the only drawback with our system is with human data entry
> >>     
> > errors.
> >   
> >> I would really appreciate any feedback.  I am absolutely scared at
> >>     
> > the whole 
> >   
> >> change over process and all the retraining etc that would occur.
> >>
> >> with thanks
> >>
> >> Anton Yoxon
> >> Learning Technologies Manager
> >> yoxon.anton.w at edumail.vic.gov.au 
> >>
> >>
> >> Anton Yoxon
> >> Learning Technologies Manager
> >> yoxon.anton.w at edumail.vic.gov.au 
> >>
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Anton Yoxon
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yoxon.anton.w at edumail.vic.gov.au