[Moodle] Ultranet quick timeline of history
Roland Gesthuizen
rgesthuizen at gmail.com
Mon Nov 9 08:09:14 EST 2009
The earliest reference was i found was a discussion in Nov 2005 between
Kevork Krozian, Andrew Grimshaw and Roland Gesthuizen in relation to a
discussion about booking software back in November 2005. Andrew referenced
some trials that had been running. This places the birth of Ultranet to
either late 2004 or early 2005. My money is with the latter.
hehehe, we must either loosing our few collective braincells not recalling
this great off-topic post. I remember it now, as it helped kick along some
great Moodlle and Linux discussions later and was the germ of your initial
idea how to build your integrated system with timetabling etc at ForestHill
College.
I can dig up a bit more but this will do for now .. I need to get to school
;-)
Regards Roland
---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Kevork Krozian <Kroset at novell1.fhc.vic.edu.au>
> Date: 2005/11/29
> Subject: [Year 12 IPM] Re: Booking software -- does it integrate ??
> To: ipm at edulists.com.au
>
>
> Hi folks,
>
> With the review of all the varying options for resource booking software
> ( by the way we wrote our own using asp pages and an access database ) it
> would be advisable to consider not just a great piece of software but to
> what extent does it fit in with your network ?
>
> Let me explain. When we look at software we are often taken by the end
> user functions and features which is all fine and necessary.
> However, consider your network . How are staff and students authenticated
> when they log on ? Are they using Novell or Windows Servers or are there
> some out there using Linux servers for some network functions ? If so,
> will you create yet another database of users with your new software to book
> resources or will it be able to "talk" to existing servers that have staff
> and student accounts ?
>
> It is HIGHLY ( yes, I am shouting ) desirable to have the new software
> authenticate ( use the name and password of staff and students ) on ( or
> against ) existing servers .
> Otherwise you will need to keep create a new user list database by
> importing the users from another server and updating the new program's
> userlist and passwords each time there is a change to staff or students if
> both are required to log on . Certainly even maintenance of staff userlists
> is a pain and an example of the disintegration of a system as opposed to the
> integration and consolidation of the user databases.
>
> Sometimes, new software will simply be able to "talk" to an existing
> database using protocols like LDAP to check that a user is indeed a staff
> member and is providing the credentials ( username and password ) found on
> an existing server. This is an example of keeping all databases tight
> without introducing a new database. Take a minute to consider how many hours
> are lost at your school with ( highly paid senior ?)people simply moving
> data from point A to point B . And what else happens ? Yes, it is never
> without problems as people forget or make mistakes or can't get to
> implementing it in time. This just confirms that humans are not good at
> moving data.
>
> Now that I have your attention, take an audit of all the user databases
> operating in your school . How many different ones are there ? five, six,
> seven or more ? Can these be integrated ?
> One task I have for next year is to integrate timetabling, reporting and
> attendance into one package ( vs the current 3 different programs where
> changes have to moved across each time to the others ). Thereafter, I wish
> to integrate the remaining databases ...... Wish me luck !
>
>
> I hope this makes sense.
>
>
>
>
> Kevork Krozian
> IT Manager , Forest Hill College
> k.krozian at fhc.vic.edu.au
> http://www.fhc.vic.edu.au
> Mobile: 0419 356 034
>
> >>> grimshaw.andrew.j at edumail.vic.gov.au 11/29/05 09:32am >>>
> we have a similar problem withe people overbooking the computer rooms and
> we dont even have booking software
>
> as the old saying goes "software doesn't make bookings, people make
> bookings"
>
> -andrew grimshaw
> Colac College
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Burnham Nerrida
> To: Year 12 Information Technology Processing and Management
> Teachers'Mailing List
> Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 7:31 AM
> Subject: RE: [Year 12 IPM] On the subject of Bookit (Crosspost)
>
>
> Hi Everyone
>
>
>
> We are currently looking at introducing Bookit next year. I have
> reservations purely because we have a few teachers who would dominate
> bookings. Does anyone have a way around this?
>
>
>
> Nerrida Burnham
>
> HOD Information Technology
>
> Mt Lilydale Mercy College
>
> 120 Anderson Street
>
> Lilydale VIC 3140
>
> Ph: (03) 9237 1322
>
> Fax: (03) 9735 0266
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au]On
> Behalf Of Trent Bolte
> Sent: Monday, 28 November 2005 3:47 PM
> To: 'Year 12 Information Technology Processing and Management Teachers'
> Mailing List'
> Subject: [Year 12 IPM] On the subject of Bookit (Crosspost)
>
>
>
> Hello Everyone
>
> Just wondering it anyone is out there using Timetabler to export to
> Bookit?
>
> If so, have you run into the problem where your export data from TT needs
> to have a field for the day so that Bookit can make sense of it? For
> example, if you have a 10 day timetable then each period occurring on the
> first Monday will have a '1' attached, while the second Monday's periods
> needs to have a '6'.
>
> If the info from TT does not have this field then I have to manually alter
> the exported files before I can import them into Bookit. This is not a hard
> job but there must be an easier way. (Other than getting someone else to do
> it)
>
> If you can help please email me directly to cut down on the crossposting,
>
> Cheers
>
> Trent Bolte
>
> LTC Mercy College Coburg
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au] On
> Behalf Of Rod Kendall
> Sent: Monday, 28 November 2005 3:19 PM
> To: Year 12 Information Technology Processing and Management
> Teachers'Mailing List
> Subject: RE: [Year 12 IPM] Electronic booking systems
>
>
>
> Have used BOOKIT and it was great
>
>
>
>
>
> http://www.carobcom.com/bookit.htm
>
>
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
>
>
> Rod
>
>
>
> Rod Kendall
>
> Head of Information and Communication Technologies (ICT)
> Head of Information Technology (Keilor Campus)
>
> Overnewton Anglican Community College
> 2-30 Overnewton Rd
> Keilor VIC 3036
> Direct Tel : 03 9334 0134
> Mobile: 0418 138 601
> Fax: 03 9336 1835
>
>
> ------------------------------
> ------------------------------------------------
>
> From: ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au] On
> Behalf Of Andrew Grimshaw
> Sent: 28 November 2005 3:06 PM
> To: Year 7 - 10 Information Technology Teachers' Mailing List; Year 12
> Information Technology Processing and ManagementTeachers'Mailing List
> Subject: [Year 12 IPM] Electronic booking systems
>
>
>
> hello friendly ICT teachers
>
>
>
> pls excuse cross-posts
>
>
>
> I am investgating electronic booking software and was wondering what other
> schools were using?
>
>
>
> I am thinking of installing the open source MRBS - has anyone else used
> this?
>
>
>
> thx, andrew grimshaw
>
>
>
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2009/11/9 Matthew Forster <forster.matthew.c at edumail.vic.gov.au>
> My recollection is that the prototype was being trialed in selected
> schools such as Ringwood S.C. during 2005/6 and the department website had a
> powerpoint promoting it up by the end of 2006. I’ve just looked at my copy
> of that powerpoint and it has the date 16 October 2006.
>
> --
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> Matthew Forster
> Information and Communications Technology Manager
> Monbulk College
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> On 9/11/09 7:15 AM, "Kevork Krozian" <kevork at edulists.com.au> wrote:
>
> Yes I know it keeps rolling back, but I thought a detective like your good
> self would recall just when the first concept of the ultranet hit the
> headlines.
> It feels like quite a few years with. One online source suggests it went to
> tender in 2007. Surely we were talking Ultranet before that.
> Just curious to fill in some of the gaps.
>
> Take Care
> Kevork Krozian
> kevork at edulists.com.au
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> ----- Original Message -----
>
> *From:* Roland Gesthuizen <mailto:rgesthuizen at gmail.com<rgesthuizen at gmail.com>>
>
>
> *To:* The Moodle Users' in Schools Mailing List <
> mailto:moodle at edulists.com.au <moodle at edulists.com.au>>
>
> *Sent:* Sunday, November 08, 2009 10:04 PM
>
> *Subject:* Re: [Moodle] Ultranet quick timeline of history
>
>
> hehehehe it keeps rolling back and back so it is a very odd and jumpy
> timeline. Delivery around the latter half of term 4 2010 .. rumors have it
> very probably going to be slotted in after the next election as this is a
> clear target.
>
> You are wise to clarify this although I wouldn't quite say that Moodle is
> the same as Ultranet. Whilst there is going to be some overlap, there are
> some important scope and structural differences.
>
> Regards Roland
>
>
> 2009/11/8 Kevork Krozian <kevork at edulists.com.au>
>
>
>
>
> Hi Folks,
>
>
>
> Since moodle and the ultranet are effectively trying to deliver the same
> thing, I assumed this was the best list to post to.
>
> I was wondering if anyone had a timeline of the ultranet history to date
> ?
>
> I need to brief some colleagues on the timeline of the initiative from
> date of concept announcement, progress, tender, re-tender, how long we have
> been waiting and when we can expect to see it if we are not an ultranet
> coach or a select school.
>
>
>
> Kind Regards
>
>
>
> Kevork Krozian
> kevork at edulists.com.au
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