[Moodle] Student file storage and moodle

Thu Aug 23 12:05:35 EST 2007

No, the Ajax implementation is just for moving items up and down within a
course. Sorry Stephen.

To manage files you still need to create a zip file (even if organized
subdirectories) .. upload then unzip (into same subdirectories) to publish
files. I increasingly do this when I have a large enough collection of
resources, zipping the lot from my network home drive then uploading/
publishing and creating a Moodle directory link rather than creating links
to each and every resource.

Regards Roland

On 23/08/07, Stephen Digby <digby.stephen.p at edumail.vic.gov.au> wrote:
>
>  No.... I mean can teachers drag and drop files into the file storage area
> etc. ?
>
> ====================================================
> Stephen Digby, Learning Technology Manager
> mailto: admin at cheltsec.vic.edu.au
> Cheltenham Secondary College www.cheltsec.vic.edu.au
> Ph: 613 955 55 955  Fx: 9555 8617 Mb: 0431-701-028
> ====================================================
> Wickedness is a myth invented by good people to account for the curious
> attraction of others. Oscar Wilde
>
>  ------------------------------
> *From:* moodle-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:
> moodle-bounces at edulists.com.au] *On Behalf Of *Roland Gesthuizen
> *Sent:* Thursday, 23 August 2007 9:58 AM
> *To:* The Moodle Users' in Schools Mailing List
> *Subject:* Re: [Moodle] Student file storage and moodle
>
>
>  Yes, I can drag and drop stuff around in courses to change its position
> and order. Very cute.
>
> Martin demonstrated it last year at the VITTA conference. There are plans
> to implement even more Ajax stuff in the roadmap for Moodle 2.0+
>
> Regards Roland
>
> On 22/08/07, Stephen Digby <digby.stephen.p at edumail.vic.gov.au> wrote:
> >
> >  i notice some ajax code in moodle.... can it use this functionality
> > already ???
> > ====================================================
> > Stephen Digby, Learning Technology Manager
> > mailto: admin at cheltsec.vic.edu.au
> > Cheltenham Secondary College www.cheltsec.vic.edu.au
> > Ph: 613 955 55 955  Fx: 9555 8617 Mb: 0431-701-028
> > ====================================================
> > Human beings are the only creatures on earth that allow their children
> > to come back home. Bill Cosby, Fatherhood, 1986
> >
> >  ------------------------------
> > *From:* moodle-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:
> > moodle-bounces at edulists.com.au] *On Behalf Of *Roland Gesthuizen
> > *Sent:* Wednesday, 22 August 2007 6:07 PM
> > *To:* The Moodle Users' in Schools Mailing List
> > *Subject:* Re: [Moodle] Student file storage and moodle
> >
> >
> >  I quite agree, Ajax has done a lot to introduce drag and drop effects
> > onto the browser.
> >
> > BTW, with Novell NetStorage .. .there is a very cute workaround that
> > lets users drag a file or collection of files (even a folder) from the
> > desktop, right onto a remote folder in a browser. I must show it off to you
> > one day. I used it during the commonwealth games to remotely backup the
> > uniform photographs that I was taking when somebody nicked my USB key. One
> > of those cute features that we didn't know was on our Network until it was
> > pointed out to me.
> >
> > Regards Roland
> >
> > On 22/08/07, Stephen Digby <digby.stephen.p at edumail.vic.gov.au> wrote:
> > >
> > > Yep.  Just download the File Manager Block/module from moodle.  Allows
> > > you to set storage limits etc etc.
> > > Only problem (common major problem with all web interfaces that
> > > hopefully will be fixed before I die, is that stduents loose the
> > > ability to copy and paste files as they can in a network share.  They
> > > have to laboriously upload files or zips of multiple files.
> > > This is one of THE major drawbacks of moodle and other content
> > > management and course management systems.)
> > >
> > > http://docs.moodle.org/en/File_manager_block
> > >
> > > ====================================================
> > > Stephen Digby, Learning Technology Manager
> > > mailto: admin at cheltsec.vic.edu.au
> > > Cheltenham Secondary College www.cheltsec.vic.edu.au
> > > Ph: 613 955 55 955  Fx: 9555 8617 Mb: 0431-701-028
> > > ====================================================
> > > The thing that impresses me most about America is the way parents obey
> > > their children.  Edward, Duke of Windsor, Look, 5 March 1957
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: moodle-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:
> > > moodle-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Daniel Stanley
> > > Sent: Tuesday, 21 August 2007 3:08 PM
> > > To: The Moodle Users' in Schools Mailing List
> > > Subject: [Moodle] Student file storage and moodle
> > >
> > > Hi all,
> > > Has anyone setup, or can suggest a means by which students can store
> > > files within moodle without actually submitting files as an
> > > assignment?
> > >
> > > Thanks heaps,
> > >
> > >
> > > Daniel Stanley
> > > IT Co-ordinator for
> > > Carrum Downs Campus
> > > Flinders Christian Community College
> > > e: daniel.stanley at flinders.vic.edu.au
> > > w: 03 97850000
> > > m: 0423960800
> > > f:   03 97735710
> > >
> > >
> > > "All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to
> > > us."
> > >
> > > J.R.R Tolkien, The Fellowship of the Ring
> > > British scholar & fantasy novelist (1892 - 1973)
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: moodle-bounces at edulists.com.au
> > > [mailto: moodle-bounces at edulists.com.au ] On Behalf Of victor rajewski
> > > Sent: Tuesday, 21 August 2007 2:39 PM
> > > To: The Moodle Users' in Schools Mailing List
> > > Subject: Re: [Moodle] Moodle award
> > >
> > > I've used and developed for both plone and drupal. They are both great
> > >
> > > systems, albeit with slightly different goals. Plone needs more work
> > > setting up, and you have to think about things a bit more at the
> > > outset.
> > > It is very, very configurable. Drupal on the other hand works better
> > > straight out of the box, and mainly configurable via plugins (which
> > > you
> > > can write your own), but I would suggest works better on smaller scale
> > > operations. Plone also seems to have better 'direction'
> > > as a project than drupal.
> > >
> > > vik
> > >
> > > On 8/20/07, Laurie Savage <sav at pvgc.vic.edu.au> wrote:
> > > > I'm invstigating Plone for an Intranet Solution on a server I've
> > > > high-jacked for Info. Tech. It has a short, steep learning curve for
> > >
> > > > the administrator but is very interesting. I find it is a simpler
> > > and
> > > > a better document repository than Drupal or Mambo/Joomla. It has
> > > > rather neat graphics capacities and work flows that will lend
> > > > themselves to collaborative student tasks. Look at the nice URL in
> > > the
> > >
> > > > Firefox screen-shot (not the domain, it's not fixed). I don't have a
> > > publicly available site yet.
> > > >
> > > >         Debian/Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install plone-site"!
> > > >
> > > > I gave up on Drupal because the Admin. Pages scroll too far and I
> > > > could never get the hang of its image handling although its
> > > > collaborative tools are good. Anyone interested in Plone could do a
> > > > lot worse than having a quick look at the "Introduction to Plone"
> > > > and/or "Editing with Plone" videos on http://plone.org/about/movies
> > > >
> > > > Laurie
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: moodle-bounces at edulists.com.au
> > > > [mailto:moodle-bounces at edulists.com.au ]
> > > > On Behalf Of Stephen Digby
> > > > Sent: Monday, 20 August 2007 1:12 PM
> > > > To: 'The Moodle Users' in Schools Mailing List'
> > > > Subject: RE: [Moodle] Moodle award
> > > >
> > > > I have got around this by moving all our intranet INSIDE moodle
> > > folders.
> > > > i.e. ALL students software is within a meta course for student
> > > > software, all teacher references are within a moodle course for
> > > student references etc.
> > > > These course folders are also mapped directly for quick access while
> > >
> > > > students are at school.
> > > > This allows teacher and students to exchange links to the resources
> > > > which will work the same way at school as outside school.
> > > >
> > > > Now building forums inside these courses that detail the resources
> > > so
> > > > that they are more effectively searchable through the forum search
> > > feature.
> > > >
> > > > Had to hack a bit of moodle (the bit that tries to calculate folder
> > > > sizes when displaying directories) as it fails when it tries to
> > > > calculate 11 Gb of folders !!!!
> > > >
> > > > ====================================================
> > > > Stephen Digby, Learning Technology Manager
> > > > mailto: admin at cheltsec.vic.edu.au
> > > > Cheltenham Secondary College www.cheltsec.vic.edu.au
> > > > Ph: 613 955 55 955  Fx: 9555 8617 Mb: 0431-701-028
> > > > ====================================================
> > > > I hope....that mankind will at length, ...have the reason and sense
> > > > enough to settle their differences without cutting throats...
> > > > Benjamin Franklin
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: moodle-bounces at edulists.com.au
> > > > [mailto:moodle-bounces at edulists.com.au]
> > > > On Behalf Of victor rajewski
> > > > Sent: Monday, 20 August 2007 12:00 PM
> > > > To: The Moodle Users' in Schools Mailing List
> > > > Subject: Re: [Moodle] Moodle award
> > > >
> > > > If the folder cannot be accessed from outside, then the folder can't
> > >
> > > > be accessed from outside, irrespective of whether there are links to
> > > > it. The only solution is to somehow provide external access to the
> > > > folder, either by allowing direct access to the server (this can
> > > > usually be locked down), or via some kind of proxy solution like
> > > using
> > >
> > > > apache and samba described below. Or using a VPN for the whole thing
> > > -
> > >
> > > > this would be just like being inside the school.
> > > >
> > > > vik
> > > >
> > > > On 8/17/07, Alan Oh <OH.A at wcc.vic.edu.au> wrote:
> > > > > Hi Vik. The moodle server is a linux machine, totally different to
> > > > > the MyFolder server. MyFolder is a network folder available within
> > >
> > > > > the school network but not available outside, unless a VPN is set
> > > up.
> > > > >
> > > > > Alan
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: moodle-bounces at edulists.com.au
> > > > > [mailto:moodle-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of victor
> > > rajewski
> > > > > Sent: Friday, 17 August 2007 12:28 PM
> > > > > To: The Moodle Users' in Schools Mailing List
> > > > > Subject: Re: [Moodle] Moodle award
> > > > >
> > > > > On 8/17/07, Alan Oh <OH.A at wcc.vic.edu.au> wrote:
> > > > > > Ahem, I don't want to sidetrack the discusion about the
> > > Ultranet,
> > > > > > but does anyone know if there is a way around this scenario:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > - The moodle server is inhouse
> > > > > > - I have a Windows file server containing a folder called
> > > "MyFolder"
> > > > > > that I did a webshare on. Ths folder has pictures, etc that
> > > > > > teachers want students to access/view
> > > > > > - in moodle, I used "Link to a file or website" to link to
> > > "MyFolder"
> > > > > > - all works well....inhouse.
> > > > > > - when logged in to moodle from home, the MyFolder link fails.
> > > > >
> > > > > Is the windows fileserver which MyFolder is on accessible from the
> > > > > outside world? Does it have the same address/domain name inside as
> > > > > it does outside?
> > > > >
> > > > > Is your moodle server running on linux or windows; if windows, is
> > > it
> > >
> > > > > the same server as the file share is on?
> > > > >
> > > > > vik
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