[Year 12 IT Apps] 2012 VCAA Exam Chat
Ciotti, George W
ciotti.george.w at edumail.vic.gov.au
Tue Nov 13 18:30:08 EST 2012
But it says "during development..."
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On 13/11/2012, at 6:10 PM, "Andrew Shortell" <shortell at get2me.net<mailto:shortell at get2me.net>> wrote:
All design of testing is done in design stage.... so....
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On 13/11/2012, at 4:35 PM, "Ciotti, George W" <ciotti.george.w at edumail.vic.gov.au<mailto:ciotti.george.w at edumail.vic.gov.au>> wrote:
The giveaway in Q6 MC is that it occurs in the Development stage therefore it has to be A. As all testing occurs within this stage.
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when all of the completely impossibles have been eliminated then whatever is left is the answer ... so A
Woof ??
I have been out of vce IT apps for a few years so am not up to speed on the finer splits of the definitions and so i did nto teach it like that ... not happy with me ... :-(
Andrew
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On 13/11/2012, at 3:23 PM, "SHEN, Tony" <Tony.SHEN at ivanhoe.com.au<mailto:Tony.SHEN at ivanhoe.com.au>> wrote:
I also agree question 6's answer should be C, though I was going to say "A" at first, then realised the "enter a lot of data" phrase....
Tony Shen
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Ivanhoe Grammar School
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From: Matheson, Heath A [mailto:Matheson.Heath.A at edumail.vic.gov.au<http://edumail.vic.gov.au/>]
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Regarding Q6 - I think with the info "to ensure the new solution does what it is intended to do" 'A' may very well be the best answer, however 'enter a lot of data' seems like a rather dodgy description of appropriate test data.
I presumed documentation should be part of the solution and should also be tested.
My guys drew a 1NF, 2NF and 3NF table for Q9. They complained this was a very boring question to complete.
No company management or decision questions at all???
Heath
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Thanks, Heath.
My only discrepancy was Q6 - I suggested A, which while worded to make it seem haphazard, implies testing. I figured the other three would all be part of evaluation.
Section B Question 9 was a bit of a worry...Did they want the kids to draw a 2NF set of tables and then a 3NF set of tables? I just jumped straight to 3NF and described what it would look like at each step. (Didn't use the second page at all...)
Also, Section B Q6...did everyone interpret that as "Facebook. Discuss."?
General impression...apart from interpreting what the examiners actually wanted, it seemed like an easy paper.
Jackson Bates
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Finney House Coordinator
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Heya All,
I'll volunteer to make the first mistakes. Quick glance at multi-choice:
1. B (easy starter nice)
2. C
3. D
4. C
5. C
6. B
7. C
8. D
9. B
10. D
11. B
12. B
13. B
14. D
15. A
16. B
17. A
18. C
19. D
20. A
A big thanks to Andrew Pate from my two (out of five) students who showed up to class this morning where we concentrated on "the big question". I thought VCAA might have made it a little more structured after last year's low response.
At least in this examiners report we will have a definite VCAA version of the normal forms. Hopefully it won't have any surprises.
Cheers,
Heath Matheson
Mount Beauty Secondary College
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