[Year 12 IT Apps] 2012 VCAA Exam Chat
Andrew Shortell
shortell at get2me.net
Tue Nov 13 17:58:09 EST 2012
All design of testing is done in design stage.... so....
Andrew Shortell
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On 13/11/2012, at 4:35 PM, "Ciotti, George W" <ciotti.george.w at edumail.vic.gov.au> wrote:
> The giveaway in Q6 MC is that it occurs in the Development stage therefore it has to be A. As all testing occurs within this stage.
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> From: Andrew Shortell <shortell at get2me.net>
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> when all of the completely impossibles have been eliminated then whatever is left is the answer ... so A
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> Woof ??
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> I have been out of vce IT apps for a few years so am not up to speed on the finer splits of the definitions and so i did nto teach it like that ... not happy with me ... :-(
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> On 13/11/2012, at 3:23 PM, "SHEN, Tony" <Tony.SHEN at ivanhoe.com.au> wrote:
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>> I also agree question 6's answer should be C, though I was going to say "A" at first, then realised the "enter a lot of data" phrase....
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>> Tony Shen
>> Member of Academic Staff (Secondary)
>> Ivanhoe Grammar School
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Matheson, Heath A [mailto:Matheson.Heath.A at edumail.vic.gov.au]
>> Sent: Tuesday, 13 November 2012 2:51 PM
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>> Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] 2012 VCAA Exam Chat
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>> Regarding Q6 - I think with the info "to ensure the new solution does what it is intended to do" 'A' may very well be the best answer, however 'enter a lot of data' seems like a rather dodgy description of appropriate test data.
>> I presumed documentation should be part of the solution and should also be tested.
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>> My guys drew a 1NF, 2NF and 3NF table for Q9. They complained this was a very boring question to complete.
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>> No company management or decision questions at all???
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>> Heath
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>> Thanks, Heath.
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>> My only discrepancy was Q6 - I suggested A, which while worded to make it seem haphazard, implies testing. I figured the other three would all be part of evaluation.
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>> Section B Question 9 was a bit of a worry...Did they want the kids to draw a 2NF set of tables and then a 3NF set of tables? I just jumped straight to 3NF and described what it would look like at each step. (Didn't use the second page at all...)
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>> Also, Section B Q6...did everyone interpret that as "Facebook. Discuss."?
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>> General impression...apart from interpreting what the examiners actually wanted, it seemed like an easy paper.
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>> Jackson Bates
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>> Heya All,
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>> I'll volunteer to make the first mistakes. Quick glance at multi-choice:
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>> 1. B (easy starter nice)
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>> 2. C
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>> 3. D
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>> 4. C
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>> 5. C
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>> 6. B
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>> 7. C
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>> 8. D
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>> 9. B
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>> 10. D
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>> 11. B
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>> 12. B
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>> 13. B
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>> 14. D
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>> 15. A
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>> 16. B
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>> 17. A
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>> 18. C
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>> 19. D
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>> 20. A
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>> A big thanks to Andrew Pate from my two (out of five) students who showed up to class this morning where we concentrated on "the big question". I thought VCAA might have made it a little more structured after last year's low response.
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>> At least in this examiners report we will have a definite VCAA version of the normal forms. Hopefully it won't have any surprises.
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>> Cheers,
>> Heath Matheson
>> Mount Beauty Secondary College
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