[Year 12 IT Apps] No ITA at McKinnon in 2012

Jackson Bates bates.j at wcc.vic.edu.au
Fri Oct 21 08:42:12 EST 2011


Our year 11 cohort is approx. 110 students, and year 12 is about the same. Thankfully, not all boys.

Jackson Bates
Waverley Christian College
Coordinator of Learning Technologies
VCE English | VCE IT Applications

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Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 15:18:51 +1100
From: Mark KELLY <kel at mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au>
Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] No ITA at McKinnon in 2012
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hehehehe.  Boysmell does become distinctive, doesn't it?

How big is your year 11/12 cohort from which the 5/12/22 kids are being drawn from?

On 20 October 2011 13:39, Jackson Bates <bates.j at wcc.vic.edu.au> wrote:

> Our Unit 3 & 4 ITA class at WCC keeps growing year on year. 5 kids 
> last year, 12 this year and it's looking like 22+  next year - Pretty 
> strange given the downward trend others are having. No girls two years 
> running, though, which is a shame (and it makes the IT lab smell funny).
>
> Jackson Bates
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> From: Brendyn Hancock <BHancock at nagle.vic.edu.au>
> Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] No ITA at McKinnon in 2012
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> All
>
> But those kids that have not done ICT y7-10 would have still learned 
> all the skills necessary from their English/maths/LOTE/etc teachers. 
> :) or that's what I keep being told!!!!
>
> Cheers
>
> B
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> From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:
> itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Mark KELLY
> Sent: Thursday, 20 October 2011 10:34 AM
> To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] No ITA at McKinnon in 2012
>
> Since there's no prerequisite for ITA or SD, we regularly got kids 
> enrolling even if they didn't do IT since year 7... and that is a 
> challenge to get them up to speed!
> On 20 October 2011 10:05, Paul Golub <golupau at santamaria.vic.edu.au 
> <mailto:golupau at santamaria.vic.edu.au>> wrote:
> Hi Mark,
>
> we've never run SD here always ITA.
> Next year there is NO ITA as we didn't run Units 1 and 2 this year.
> First time ever, that I can remember, there will be no Year 12 IT of 
> any kind.
>
> We will be running Units 1 and 2 next year. Roughly 16 students.
>
> Regards
> Paul Golub
> Santa Maria College
> 50 Separation Street
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> -----Original message-----
> From: Mark KELLY kel at mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au<mailto:
> kel at mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au>
> Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 08:30:10 +1100
> To: "Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List"
> itapps at edulists.com.au<mailto:itapps at edulists.com.au>, "Year 12 
> Software Development Teachers' Mailing List"sofdev at edulists.com.au<mailto:
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> Subject: [Year 12 IT Apps] No ITA at McKinnon in 2012
>
> Hi all.
>
> As I feared, ITA didn't get enough enrolments to run in 2012 - for the 
> first time in about 15 years.
>
> Strangely enough, Software Development *is* running - and before this 
> year it hasn't run for 3 years.
>
> Actually, I'm kind of relieved since SD is more interesting anyway, 
> and ITA seems old, dry and tired. Perhaps it's just because I've been 
> teaching it since forever, or it may be that the new study design is 
> partly to blame - and yes! normal forms, I AM looking at you.  And I'd 
> also put some blame on the freakishly large and long U4O1 - my kids 
> were exhausted at the end of that.
>
> After a hiatus this year, Units 1&2 return to McKinnon in 2012, and 
> since I have barely looked at them it will be another fun year 
> compiling resources for those units.
> If the ITA embargo continues and SD continues to run, I may craft 
> units 1&2 to be heavy on programming to better funnel kids into SD in 
> the following year.
>
> Do you guys know what units will run at your places next year?
>
> --
> Mark Kelly
> Manager of ICT, Reporting, IT Learning Area McKinnon Secondary College 
> McKinnon Rd McKinnon 3204, Victoria, Australia Direct line / 
> Voicemail: +613
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> 9253<tel:%2B613%209578%209253> 
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> From: "Litsa Tzelepis" <htzelepis at msj.vic.edu.au>
> Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] No ITA at McKinnon in 2012
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> Hello - so sad - I have been teaching this subject for 16 years and I 
> do love it but it looks like its whisping away.
>
> We have about 9 ITA students and about 8 11IT students. Numbers are 
> being finalised this week.
>
> However, our numbers have really spread out across other subjects too.
> Others are feeling a low in numbers. My concern is where have the 
> numbers gone?
>
> Good luck with the SD course.
>
> Litsa
>  ----- Original Message -----
>  From: Mark KELLY
>   To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List ; Year 12 
> Software Development Teachers' Mailing List
>   Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 9:30 AM
>   Subject: [Year 12 IT Apps] No ITA at McKinnon in 2012
>
>
>  Hi all.
>
>  As I feared, ITA didn't get enough enrolments to run in 2012 - for 
> the first time in about 15 years.
>
>  Strangely enough, Software Development *is* running - and before this 
> year it hasn't run for 3 years.
>
>  Actually, I'm kind of relieved since SD is more interesting anyway, 
> and ITA seems old, dry and tired. Perhaps it's just because I've been 
> teaching it since forever, or it may be that the new study design is 
> partly to blame
> - and yes! normal forms, I AM looking at you.  And I'd also put some 
> blame on the freakishly large and long U4O1 - my kids were exhausted 
> at the end of that.
>
>  After a hiatus this year, Units 1&2 return to McKinnon in 2012, and 
> since I have barely looked at them it will be another fun year 
> compiling resources for those units.
>  If the ITA embargo continues and SD continues to run, I may craft 
> units
> 1&2 to be heavy on programming to better funnel kids into SD in the 
> following year.
>
>  Do you guys know what units will run at your places next year?
>
>  --
>  Mark Kelly
>  Manager of ICT, Reporting, IT Learning Area  McKinnon Secondary 
> College  McKinnon Rd McKinnon 3204, Victoria, Australia  Direct line / 
> Voicemail: +613 8520 9085, Fax +613 9578 9253  
> kel at mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au  VCE IT Lecture Notes: http://vceit.com
>  Moderator: IT Applications Edulist
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> Hi Brendyn,
>
> They wouldn't do a combined 1-2/3-4 ?
>
> I did that this year, I had to re-arrange some outcomes, but they link 
> quite well together.
>
> Cheers
> Warrick
>
> From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:
> itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Brendyn Hancock
> Sent: Thursday, 20 October 2011 10:49 AM
> To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] No ITA at McKinnon in 2012
>
> All
>
> Just had news that Unit 1 -2 will run although numbers are very low 12 
> students. Unit 3-4 had a glimmer of hope but that has faded. So Nagle 
> College 2012 will be unit 1-2 but NO unit3-4.
>
> Cheers
>
> Brendyn
> Nagle College
> Bairnsdale
>
> From: 
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> itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au]> On Behalf Of Mark KELLY
> Sent: Thursday, 20 October 2011 9:30 AM
> To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List; Year 12 Software 
> Development Teachers' Mailing List
> Subject: [Year 12 IT Apps] No ITA at McKinnon in 2012
>
> Hi all.
>
> As I feared, ITA didn't get enough enrolments to run in 2012 - for the 
> first time in about 15 years.
>
> Strangely enough, Software Development *is* running - and before this 
> year it hasn't run for 3 years.
>
> Actually, I'm kind of relieved since SD is more interesting anyway, 
> and ITA seems old, dry and tired. Perhaps it's just because I've been 
> teaching it since forever, or it may be that the new study design is 
> partly to blame - and yes! normal forms, I AM looking at you.  And I'd 
> also put some blame on the freakishly large and long U4O1 - my kids 
> were exhausted at the end of that.
>
> After a hiatus this year, Units 1&2 return to McKinnon in 2012, and 
> since I have barely looked at them it will be another fun year 
> compiling resources for those units.
> If the ITA embargo continues and SD continues to run, I may craft 
> units 1&2 to be heavy on programming to better funnel kids into SD in 
> the following year.
>
> Do you guys know what units will run at your places next year?
>
> --
> Mark Kelly
> Manager of ICT, Reporting, IT Learning Area McKinnon Secondary College 
> McKinnon Rd McKinnon 3204, Victoria, Australia Direct line / 
> Voicemail: +613
> 8520 9085, Fax +613 9578 9253 kel at mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au<mailto:
> kel at mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au>
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> Want a good time? Call 0112358. Ask for Mr Fibonacci.
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