[Year 12 IT Apps] No ITA at McKinnon in 2012

Mark KELLY kel at mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au
Thu Oct 20 15:18:51 EST 2011 

hehehehe.  Boysmell does become distinctive, doesn't it?

How big is your year 11/12 cohort from which the 5/12/22 kids are being
drawn from?

On 20 October 2011 13:39, Jackson Bates <bates.j at wcc.vic.edu.au> wrote:

> Our Unit 3 & 4 ITA class at WCC keeps growing year on year. 5 kids last
> year, 12 this year and it's looking like 22+  next year - Pretty strange
> given the downward trend others are having. No girls two years running,
> though, which is a shame (and it makes the IT lab smell funny).
>
> Jackson Bates
> Waverley Christian College
> Coordinator of Learning Technologies
> VCE English | VCE IT Applications
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> Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 23:51:17 +0000
> From: Brendyn Hancock <BHancock at nagle.vic.edu.au>
> Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] No ITA at McKinnon in 2012
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> All
>
> But those kids that have not done ICT y7-10 would have still learned all
> the skills necessary from their English/maths/LOTE/etc teachers. :) or
> that's what I keep being told!!!!
>
> Cheers
>
> B
>
> From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:
> itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Mark KELLY
> Sent: Thursday, 20 October 2011 10:34 AM
> To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] No ITA at McKinnon in 2012
>
> Since there's no prerequisite for ITA or SD, we regularly got kids
> enrolling even if they didn't do IT since year 7... and that is a challenge
> to get them up to speed!
> On 20 October 2011 10:05, Paul Golub <golupau at santamaria.vic.edu.au
> <mailto:golupau at santamaria.vic.edu.au>> wrote:
> Hi Mark,
>
> we've never run SD here always ITA.
> Next year there is NO ITA as we didn't run Units 1 and 2 this year.
> First time ever, that I can remember, there will be no Year 12 IT of any
> kind.
>
> We will be running Units 1 and 2 next year. Roughly 16 students.
>
> Regards
> Paul Golub
> Santa Maria College
> 50 Separation Street
> Northcote 3070
> Ph: 9488 1674
>
>
>
> -----Original message-----
> From: Mark KELLY kel at mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au<mailto:
> kel at mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au>
> Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 08:30:10 +1100
> To: "Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List"
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> Development Teachers' Mailing List"sofdev at edulists.com.au<mailto:
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> Subject: [Year 12 IT Apps] No ITA at McKinnon in 2012
>
> Hi all.
>
> As I feared, ITA didn't get enough enrolments to run in 2012 - for the
> first time in about 15 years.
>
> Strangely enough, Software Development *is* running - and before this year
> it hasn't run for 3 years.
>
> Actually, I'm kind of relieved since SD is more interesting anyway, and ITA
> seems old, dry and tired. Perhaps it's just because I've been teaching it
> since forever, or it may be that the new study design is partly to blame -
> and yes! normal forms, I AM looking at you.  And I'd also put some blame on
> the freakishly large and long U4O1 - my kids were exhausted at the end of
> that.
>
> After a hiatus this year, Units 1&2 return to McKinnon in 2012, and since I
> have barely looked at them it will be another fun year compiling resources
> for those units.
> If the ITA embargo continues and SD continues to run, I may craft units 1&2
> to be heavy on programming to better funnel kids into SD in the following
> year.
>
> Do you guys know what units will run at your places next year?
>
> --
> Mark Kelly
> Manager of ICT, Reporting, IT Learning Area McKinnon Secondary College
> McKinnon Rd McKinnon 3204, Victoria, Australia Direct line / Voicemail: +613
> 8520 9085<tel:%2B613%208520%209085>, Fax +613 9578 9253<tel:%2B613%209578%209253>
> kel at mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au<mailto:kel at mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au>
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> From: "Litsa Tzelepis" <htzelepis at msj.vic.edu.au>
> Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] No ITA at McKinnon in 2012
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> Hello - so sad - I have been teaching this subject for 16 years and I do
> love it but it looks like its whisping away.
>
> We have about 9 ITA students and about 8 11IT students. Numbers are being
> finalised this week.
>
> However, our numbers have really spread out across other subjects too.
> Others are feeling a low in numbers. My concern is where have the numbers
> gone?
>
> Good luck with the SD course.
>
> Litsa
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>  From: Mark KELLY
>   To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List ; Year 12 Software
> Development Teachers' Mailing List
>   Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 9:30 AM
>   Subject: [Year 12 IT Apps] No ITA at McKinnon in 2012
>
>
>  Hi all.
>
>  As I feared, ITA didn't get enough enrolments to run in 2012 - for the
> first time in about 15 years.
>
>  Strangely enough, Software Development *is* running - and before this year
> it hasn't run for 3 years.
>
>  Actually, I'm kind of relieved since SD is more interesting anyway, and
> ITA seems old, dry and tired. Perhaps it's just because I've been teaching
> it since forever, or it may be that the new study design is partly to blame
> - and yes! normal forms, I AM looking at you.  And I'd also put some blame
> on the freakishly large and long U4O1 - my kids were exhausted at the end of
> that.
>
>  After a hiatus this year, Units 1&2 return to McKinnon in 2012, and since
> I have barely looked at them it will be another fun year compiling resources
> for those units.
>  If the ITA embargo continues and SD continues to run, I may craft units
> 1&2 to be heavy on programming to better funnel kids into SD in the
> following year.
>
>  Do you guys know what units will run at your places next year?
>
>  --
>  Mark Kelly
>  Manager of ICT, Reporting, IT Learning Area
>  McKinnon Secondary College
>  McKinnon Rd McKinnon 3204, Victoria, Australia
>  Direct line / Voicemail: +613 8520 9085, Fax +613 9578 9253
>  kel at mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au
>  VCE IT Lecture Notes: http://vceit.com
>  Moderator: IT Applications Edulist
>
>  Want a good time? Call 0112358. Ask for Mr Fibonacci.
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> From: "Mann, Warrick D" <Mann.Warrick.D at edumail.vic.gov.au>
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> Hi Brendyn,
>
> They wouldn't do a combined 1-2/3-4 ?
>
> I did that this year, I had to re-arrange some outcomes, but they link
> quite well together.
>
> Cheers
> Warrick
>
> From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:
> itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Brendyn Hancock
> Sent: Thursday, 20 October 2011 10:49 AM
> To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] No ITA at McKinnon in 2012
>
> All
>
> Just had news that Unit 1 -2 will run although numbers are very low 12
> students. Unit 3-4 had a glimmer of hope but that has faded. So Nagle
> College 2012 will be unit 1-2 but NO unit3-4.
>
> Cheers
>
> Brendyn
> Nagle College
> Bairnsdale
>
> From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au<mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au>
> [mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au]<mailto:[mailto:
> itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au]> On Behalf Of Mark KELLY
> Sent: Thursday, 20 October 2011 9:30 AM
> To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List; Year 12 Software
> Development Teachers' Mailing List
> Subject: [Year 12 IT Apps] No ITA at McKinnon in 2012
>
> Hi all.
>
> As I feared, ITA didn't get enough enrolments to run in 2012 - for the
> first time in about 15 years.
>
> Strangely enough, Software Development *is* running - and before this year
> it hasn't run for 3 years.
>
> Actually, I'm kind of relieved since SD is more interesting anyway, and ITA
> seems old, dry and tired. Perhaps it's just because I've been teaching it
> since forever, or it may be that the new study design is partly to blame -
> and yes! normal forms, I AM looking at you.  And I'd also put some blame on
> the freakishly large and long U4O1 - my kids were exhausted at the end of
> that.
>
> After a hiatus this year, Units 1&2 return to McKinnon in 2012, and since I
> have barely looked at them it will be another fun year compiling resources
> for those units.
> If the ITA embargo continues and SD continues to run, I may craft units 1&2
> to be heavy on programming to better funnel kids into SD in the following
> year.
>
> Do you guys know what units will run at your places next year?
>
> --
> Mark Kelly
> Manager of ICT, Reporting, IT Learning Area McKinnon Secondary College
> McKinnon Rd McKinnon 3204, Victoria, Australia Direct line / Voicemail: +613
> 8520 9085, Fax +613 9578 9253 kel at mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au<mailto:
> kel at mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au>
> VCE IT Lecture Notes: http://vceit.com
> Moderator: IT Applications Edulist<http://www.edulists.com.au/>
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> Want a good time? Call 0112358. Ask for Mr Fibonacci.
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Mark Kelly
Manager of ICT, Reporting, IT Learning Area
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McKinnon Rd McKinnon 3204, Victoria, Australia
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